2014-2015 Blizzard Bonafide

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Pow

I didn’t get the Bonafides in really deep pow, but in boot-deep pow in the trees below Kachina Peak, the Bonafides did just fine. And there is no question that the Bonafide’s softer shovels and more pronounced tip rocker make it a more pow-friendly, 98mm-underfoot ski than the Mantra. I still wouldn’t care to break either ski out in more than 12-18″ of pow, but while the Mantra wins the nastier the conditions get, the Bonafide wins the deeper the snow gets.

Firm, Bumped-Up Steeps

I love the Cochise, but firm steeps is probably where I least appreciated its tail. Same goes for the Bonafide. Their tails, which are so fun to pivot in bumps and soft snow, give up some bite the steeper and firmer things get. In the entrance to Oster, Stauffenberg, and Zdarsky off of Taos’ West Basin Ridge, I had to be very mindful to keep my weight centered on the Bonafide or the tails would wash out, whereas I could dig the tails of the Mantra in, get great edgehold, then execute the next turn. I could also airplane turn off a mogul, land, and repeat without having the tails wash out on me.

But once through those steeper, firm entrances, the Bonafides went back to being a whole lot of fun, were easy to maneuver down Oster, through the tight middle chokes of Zdarsky, and over the fast, bumped-up runout at the bottom of West Basin, back to Lift #2.

Final Comparison: Blizzard Bonafide vs. Volkl Mantra

The top end of the Mantra is what I love about it. But that top end comes with a price: it isn’t a forgiving ski, and unless you weigh a good bit (more than say, 200 lbs.), it isn’t a ski best suited for skiing at slow or moderate speeds.

The Bonafide is not some dead-easy ski either that invites lackadasical skiing. You can still push them hard, but as I’ve detailed above, they are more forgiving and user-friendly than the Mantra in a number of settings.

Jonathan Ellsworth on the Blizzard Bonafide, Blister Gear Review
Jonathan Ellsworth on the Blizzard Bonafide, Longhorn, Taos Ski Valley.

Sizing Recommendations

In his review of the 180cm Blizzard Kabookie, Jason Hutchins (who weighs ~160 lbs.) said that he was never left wishing for a longer ski. I was very skeptical that I would say the same thing, given that I weigh 20 lbs. more than him, but I have to say that I enjoyed my time on the 180cm Bonafide. If anything, the 187 Bonafide might have smoothed out those end-of-the-day, roughed-up groomers, and maybe the extra effective edge would have noticeably improved bite on those firm steeps. But I enjoyed the 180s in bumps, soft groomers, boot-deep pow off Kachina Peak, trees, etc.

So while it seems that we spend most of our time trying to get people to size up, this is probably one of those times where, if you are torn between two lengths, you can afford to drop down.

Bottom Line

About the best compliment I can pay the Bonafide is that I had a good time skiing it pretty much everywhere at Taos: on groomers, through steep trees, down Reforma, off Kachina Peak, zipper lining Hunzinger, and negotiating monster-sized moguls in the middle of Spencer’s. And if a ski is able to be called “fun” everywhere at Taos, it has unquestionably earned its All-Mountain stripes.

And if you’re a strong intermediate, advanced, or expert skier looking for a substantial, directional, ~100mm-wide ski that will work well when the conditions are even slightly soft or beginning to get deep, the Bonafide deserves to be on your short list.

 

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93 comments on “2014-2015 Blizzard Bonafide”

  1. Cheers for this, have both ski’s on my shortlist and at my intermediate/advanced level, sounds like the Bonafide is the better option. Interesting that you suggest skiing shorter, one of my concerns at 6′ 4″ (200lbs) is that ski’s with a bit of tip rocker are a tad short (typlically 188cm). Any ski (that I have an interest in) that seems to be over 190cm has tail rocker or twin tip (so proabably same at a 188) and I’m keen to have a daily driver 40/60 piste/off piste – Mantra being the exception. For 3cm, could well be I’m over thinking things.

      • Understood. I’m just wondering if 187 is long enough. Not many options for a ski of this type/style that is longer.
        I ski in Europe and have to fly from the UK, so looking for a one ski quiver. I’m nothing amazing on ski’s get around all pistes with out to much trouble, my technique is rubbish on moguls so tend to avoid and have a bit of a tendency to get in the back seat off piste, but love working on that and spending time off piste.

          • Well, hard to argue with that. I had a background with 205 straight ski’s but time for this bloke to catch up with the changes in ski design ;o)

  2. Great review.

    I’m 5’10” 175 lbs and really like the 180 Bonafide as an all mountain ski. It’s damp and edge hold is really good on firm snow (perhaps not as much as the Mantra but plenty for me), yet it is just loose enough with the tail rocker to pivot in tight spots, bumps, and fresh. Perfect balance IMO for an all mountain ski (west coast).

  3. I am 5’9, 170. I own and love the Cochise in a 185, yet really enjoyed the Bonifide in the 180. I spent a day demo’ing it at Alta on a cold crud day and had a blast. I had no need for more length bombing down the funky snow. I thought it was a really fun ski and almost bought it.
    The ski that won me over was the Atomic Alibi. Its another really fun ski in the 98mm category and worth looking at. I would have never considered it, had it not been in a demo fleet at my local hill.

    • Hey, JB – as I noted in my Hell & Back review, the Hell & Back feels more like a dialed back Mantra, which isn’t how I’d describe the Bonafide (as I hope my review above makes clear how & why). The Hell & Back and Mantra have similar tails, and for pure carving, I prefer that Hell & Back / Mantra tail. Our Hell & Backs are currently being tested in Vermont, and shovel stiffness between the Hell & Back and Bonafide seemed similar enough on snow that I can’t say for sure right now which is softer / stiffer. Soft snow performance between the 185 Hell & Back is probably pretty close to the 180 Bonafide, but again, I’d need to A/B them to say definitively.

      • Hi Jonathan!

        Thanks for the quick response. Seems like I can’t go wrong with either the H&B and Bonafide… Just comes down to skiing preference.

  5. Jason said multiple times about how he thought the swing weight of the kabookie puzzled him for such a light ski, did you find the Bonafide to have a heavier swing weight than the mantra? Little difference in length though.

    • No, TM, the 184cm Mantra has a heavier swing weight than the 180cm Bonafide. Keep in mind, I’ve got 20-25 lbs on Jason. (He’s ~160 lbs, I’m 180-185.) In his review, Jason writes, “the important caveat here is that I am a fairly light, balanced, finesse-style skier. Heavier, more aggressive skiers may not find the ski to be as much work.” I didn’t find the 180 Kabookie to be much work, I mostly just didn’t find it to be *enough* ski. I’ll be writing a 2nd look on the Kabookie shortly.

  6. When will you guys have the hell and back review done? Very curious to know what you both think about it in comparison to kabookie. Seems super light in the stores which I love but it’s non rockered wide tail has kept me from trying it. As much as I love that setup on the groomers it’s not near as much fun in the bumps and trees once you start skiing rockered and turned up tails. I think next year they are adding rocker to the tail but that could be just a rumor.

  7. Hell and Back does have a “kicked” tail. As for the review, looks like they just posted their newest Hell and Back review. U should check it out!

  8. Hi Jonathan

    Great review as usual. I am thinking of replacing my Sickles with something a little narrower (I have the Automatics for powder days) with more edge grip for firmer conditions and am considering the Bonafides.

    I am 5 7′, 154 lbs and an advanced skier who tends to ski at medium high speeds (not a charger) in Whistler (mostly off the groomers in the bowls) and I prefer medium radius turns. Would the Bonafides be a good fit and how would you compare them to the Scimitar as well ?

    Thks
    Ian

    • If I’m allowed to pipe in to this question why not look at the Kabookie? At your size and your statement saying medium speed, not a charger the Kabookie would be awesome for you. As I guy that has skied both Kabookie would be my recommendation to you.

  9. Tried both Bonafide / Hell&Back yesterday at Kirkwood in powder/steep groomers/bumps and Bonafide were great all around! H&B are nice but bought the Bonafide with a big smile and on sale!

  10. Hi Jonathan,

    Thanx for a solid review of this ski. I have seen a few, but this one is definitely the best. I have been debating for a while now between the Bonafide’s and Nordica’s – Hell and Back. I don’t have a chance to demo either one, but it looks like the H&B would be a better choice for me (Skiing Style and being metal free) according to your review and some of the comments. I skied the Mantra’s three years ago, and felt that I did not need that much of a ski all the time. With 2.5 sheets of Metal, are the Bonafide’s anything close as the Mantra’s? As well, if u can offer any other comparisons between the Bonfide and The H&B’s, that would totally be appreciated. Thanks, Paul

  11. Jonathan – all 3 reviews were solid and added that final push to stir me in the direction of H&B (They r getting mounted right now.) I got a super sweet deal because they r getting replaced by the NRGY series next year. Thanx again for the solid reviews.
    I’m looking forward to your review of the Rossi Experience 100.
    .

  12. This is all really useful information. Been reading a lot about Mantra vs. Bona Fide. I’m wondering about length and wanted to get your view. I’m 6’2″ 200 lbs. I’m looking at Bona Fides at a good price and they’re 180 cm. Various ski length calculators put me at 180-185 cm. I noticed you recommended a 6’4″/200 lb guy should get the 187 cm length Bona Fides. I currently ski a Volkl AC50 at 177 cm. I ski mainly in CO and I do all types of terrain. I like to go fast! Just wondering about all this and would appreciate your input. Thanks!

  13. GREAT reviews and comments. I’m a Squaw guy, ready to replace my Volkl Grizzly’s for the everyday, firm, carving side of my quiver (I use a Volkl Katana for bigger softer days). Although I tend toward more traditional cambered carving boards (racing heritage), I’m on the fence between the Mantra and the Bonafide. Store dood said newer Mantra’s can be a bit “planky” and felt the Bonafide was the way to go. Your review kind of hints toward the Mantra for strong hold in tip to tail carving.

    I’m 5’10” / 160lbs. If Bonafide, I’m on the fence between 173 and 180, leaning 180 since the effective length is shortened by the tip rocker.

    All further thoughts appreciated.

    Steve

    • I’ve skied both Mantra and Bonafide for >20 days each. I ski Squaw as well. I think you’ll enjoy both skis. My pick: Bonafide. The reason is the Bonafide is more refined. The flex pattern is better dialed and they are better behaved in more conditions.

    • Hey, Steve – just to muddy the waters a bit: I agree with Demetri that you might enjoy either ski. Where I disagree with him – seriously disagree with him – is in calling the Bonafide “more refined.” The Bonafide simply has a softer shovel, which some people will like. But as I wrote in my Mantra review, it has one of the most balanced, progressive flexes (albeit a rather stiff flex) of any ski I’ve skied. I do not regard the Bonafide as being “more dialed”. All I am willing to say is that the Bonafide has a more “user-friendly” flex. So I guess that means I’m not a “reliable rider,” but I’ll stand by the differences I’ve articulated in my Mantra & Bonafide reviews. Enjoy!

  15. Thanks for the further comments. I’m pretty settled on the Bonafide in a 180. Another capable guy here also found the Mantra a bit “planky” and flat underfoot vs. more energy in the Bonafide. More mud in the water suggesting I consider the Brahma which is apparently virtually the same with a narrower waist at 88 vs. 98 for the Bonafide. Fun dilemma, but I’m still leaning Bonafide. Any further comments appreciated, but thanks everyone for a really fun and useful thread!

    Steve

    • Hi All;

      I definitely agree with “planky” and I add “too Surfy” to it for 2015 Mantra that I demoed in hard Eastern snow. I asked Jonathan if going shorter on Mantra could help. He answered it will not. I did not have these problems with my own older version of Mantra.

  16. After reading the review and all the comments I’m pretty sold on the Bonafieds, but coming off a pair of 177 K2 Explorer Apache’s which were just too long and heavy for my taste I’m afraid to go with the 180 over the 173. I’m 6′ 180 and mainly ski east coast, some VT trips every year, but a lot of groomed. I usually ski pretty fast but right now don’t have the maneuverability I need. My main concern is how they will take to the ice spots that we have a decent amount of here. I like more agility and hit parks every time I ski so I feel like the 173’s would be better for that. I know they’ll be great for most of what I’ll be using them for, which is all mountain duty, but I’m concerned how well they will hold up both on a semi icy end of the day run and also in..say Jay’s glades with my height/weight if I go with the 173’s. The 170 range was what I was recommended but all the comments on here from similar height weight guys seem’s to say otherwise. Or maybe there’s something better out there even? Thanks in advance!

    • I hope I’m not jumping into this discussion uninvited but just want to throw the Kabookie into the mix for Alex. He’s saying his 177cm apache was too long and heavy, which in my opinion the 180cm Bonafide will be right there for him and depending on what binding he puts on it, worse. If you don’t want to jump all the way down to the 173 Bonafide why not consider the 180cm Kabookie? I have very good experience on both Bonafide and Kabookie in the 180cm and almost exact same size as Alex.

      Again just throwing it out there but if Alex wants to just go down a ski size then the 173 Bonafide would be hard to beat.

  17. Bought a pair of Bonafides for an off-piste week in Tignes in the French Alps. As it was there was no new snow and mainly ice, crud and slush – not what I had been aiming the skis for. However perfectly happy with their performance. Skied really well and looked after me well on some painfully steep runs. Cannot wait for some powder.

    Happily recommend as an all mountain, all purpose ski.

  18. I’m an older skiier who likes to stay in the snow in the steep and the deep. The idea of floating to the top does not appeal to me. therefore, what width underfoot in these new voluptuous designs would you recommend for a pure powder ski. and also a specific ski. thanks

  19. Been trying to decide if I want a wider ski as I rented a pair for a day and felt much easier on the legs than my Blizzard Gforce Supersonic 167mm’s. The Gforce is super quick turning and a solid ski for most conditions. Powder over 6 inches makes it hard to float with my current skis. I’ve researched several skis, but have been leaning toward the Bonafide’s. I’m 5’9″, 190, in great shape, but live in Florida so only get about 10 days a year. I’m a former ski instructor in the East where I skied 50 times per season. I go pretty much everywhere on the mountain – steeps, bumps, glades, and cruisers. I’m 51 so anything that is going to make life easier on my legs so I can ski all day is much appreciated. I’m thinking 180 would be the proper length for me. Can you confirm my thought process or do you have other suggestions? Also, is there a binding or 2 you can suggest for the Bonafide’s? Thanks for your help!! Enjoy your turns!!!

  20. Hello,

    I am currently researching for my first pair of skis. I’m 5’7, 154 pounds and tend to be a more aggressive skier. I enjoy both GS style carved turns on soft groomers and shorter, slalom turns in the crud and icier conditions. Off-piste, I don’t have much experience in the deep pow but am looking to improve in that area. Currently, I’m torn between Nordica H&B 169cm/177cm and the Blizzard Bonafide 173cm/180cm. What would you recomment?

    • Hi, Sarvar – I don’t have much more to add beyond my 2 reviews, but I will say that (1) I think either ski could make good sense for you, and (2) the faster / harder you ski, the more I’d be inclined to have you go with the longer lengths in either ski, though I don’t think the shorter lengths would be a disaster (i.e., these are more substantial skis than, say, the Rossi Soul 7, where I am constantly trying to get people to go with the longer length when they’re on the fence about size.)

    • Hi, I haven’t spent time on the Soul Rider, but these are two very different skis. The Soul Rider is a soft, playful, all-mountain / park ski that has no metal. The Bonafide is a metal, relatively stiff, directional, all-mountain ski. Both are excellent at what they do, but they are pretty apples-to-oranges. Hopefully our reviews of each will make clear which is the better fit for you.

  22. I own two pairs of 180 bonafides, one for resort and one for bc, mounted with dynafits.
    in the resort, on powder days, I ski katanas.
    I like the bonafides in the bc, in all conditions, except deep powder in narrow couloirs.
    I skied terminal cancer in 18″of settled, heavier powder and i found it hard to link turns without a lot of effort, jumping every turn.

    In the resort, on katanas, in powder and narrow couloirs, I don’t have nearly as much trouble. Does this make sense to you?

    By narrow couloirs, I mean 3-4m wide.

    Should I ski a wider ski in powde in bc, or suck it up

  23. Hi Jonathan, you are very kind to answer so many questions. I have one. I am settled on the Bonafide, and just bought 180’s. I’m 6′, 170-175, and a fairly aggressive fast skier. However, I live in New England, but ski both here and out west. 180’s better here in the East, 187 better out West. Do you have a recommendation as far as which length for me? I do like to ski moguls and have pretty good technique, but prefer Sierra/ Rockies -style big mountain with powder. Pretty much, would the 180 be sufficient length out west. I rented them at Deer Valley last winter and can’t remember if I rode 180 or 187, but they were great on fresh snow, soft moguls, groomers, and knee-deep powder. Thanks, Joe

  25. Hi Jonathan, have enjoyed reading your threads, We are the same weight, and seem to enjoy similar terrain. I ski 80-90 days a year in Vail. Looking for a ski or skis in the 90 to 100 mm underfoot, to supplement my powder skis (1st gen Rossi Super 7 188 cm) for those no snow firmer days, when I spend more time on-piste, but still try to keep that to a minimum. Attempting to find a nice compromise between edge hold, damp, stable, quick release tail for bumps, and crud and carving. Curious what is at the top of your list for 2015 in this category? Here are some on my short list:
    Nordica Soul Rider 185
    Salomon Rocker 2 186
    Blizzard Regulator 186
    Blizzard Peacemaker 186
    Atomic Automatic 188
    Nordica Nrgy 100 185
    Blizzard Bonafide 180

  26. Hi Jonathan,

    Thanks so much for the comprehensive reviews. It makes researching new planks a whole lot easier. I’m looking to size up from an pair of 2010 Volkl Bridges. I don’t have them in front of me, but I’m 95% sure they’re 163s. My short list includes the Blizzard Bonafide and Peacemaker, and the Volkl Mantra. I’ve bulked up significantly from when I bought the Bridges and so I’m in need of a bigger ski. I’m 5’8, 185lbs. I’m about 50/50 on and off piste and use the time on piste to give my legs a rest. Any suggestion on sizing? I’m leaning towards the 177 for the Mantra, 179 for the Peacemaker, and either the 172 or 180 for the Bonafide.
    Thanks,
    Ken

    • Hi, Ken (and thanks, Craig for chiming in below)

      I haven’t skied the Peacemaker, but Craig is right to say that it’s more similar to the Bridge than the Mantra and Bonafide are. But if you read our reviews of the 3 skis, you ought to be able to figure out which ski sounds best for you.

      As for sizing for you: 180cm Bonafide, 177cm Mantra, and I would be inclined to say the 186cm Peacemaker.

  27. Hi Ken, I thought I would offer my two cents. I am 180 lbs. and a bit taller than you. I just bought the 180 Bonafides, however, my primary ski is a 188 Rossi. 1st generation super 7, just purchased my 3rd set. I was looking for a second ski to be used during no snow, skied off conditions. I live in Vail, and ski primarily off piste. I am more finesse, slower speed skier. I consider the 180 length to be on the short side, but the Bonafide is a relatively stiff ski, camber underfoot, with two layers of metal, which I hope makes up for its shorter length, and should have good edge hold. You are coming from a very short, and soft ski, I think you will find the 180 Bonafide will require far more effort and lacks a twin tip to aid in the easy release you are accustomed to (more directional ski). The Peacemaker would be a comparable ski to what you are on. I would have purchased the Peacemaker in a 186, because it is a soft, twin tip, as is the Nordica Soul Rider, which is even softer in the tail, and twin tip, very easy turn initiation. The Salomon Rocker 2 is also a soft ski, more similar to what you are currently on. The Mantra is a stiffer meaty ski. My purchase last year was the light weight, no metal (springy), Rossi Soul 7 in a 188, (a favorite of many testers????) which I skied for 20 sessions and sold last Jan. I have studied the above skis in the shop, but do not have Jonathan’s on hill experience with the variety of skis, I will be interested to see his comment….. Tough to decide! Craig

  28. Hi Jonathan,

    Thank you for your job. I don’t know how you manage to keep all your sensations in mind before putting them down on paper !

    These days I’m lost between Kabookie and Bonafide, 173, 180 or even 166.

    I’m somewhere between “intermediate” and good skiier, skiing all snows (because I can’t chose, last year it’s been 80% hard …) and looking for a genuine one pair.
    Past program : 70 % on track.
    Program up to come with new skis : 50% or even 60% off track, if we get a snow different than the hard one we got last year ;) (otherwise, chosen skis will have to be good as well for these conditions.)

    And the fact is I’m afraid being asskicked by Bonafide and even by Kabookie ! (in other words, to be below the lowest ski level required !)

    Last but not least : I’m 5’7″ and 180 lbs.

    Any advice on model and size ?
    To go further : are Bonafide from 13 really different from 15 ? Same question for Kabookie ? Is there a year (from 13 to 15) better than another, for each of these two models ?

    Thanks a lot ! (to anyone who could help me ;)

    Cal

    • Howdy,
      The 13-15 bonafide & kabookie are the same skis, just different top sheets.
      It sounds line the kabookie would be a better choice for you.
      It’s still a rippin’ ski.

    • Because you ski so much hard snow, you may want to have a look at the brahma’s (with metal) and the bushwhacker’s (no metal). They are awesome 50/50 skis that still offer descent float.
      I think you would really enjoy the 173’s brahma’s.

      • Paul,

        I did take look at some 88 (not the Brahma to tell you the truth, so thank you for the piece of advice). Bushwacker yes, I did.

        I had impression that I’d lose on flotation, quite normal, but sometimes even also on stability at speed and even … on flotation !
        For all these reasons, I thought the 98 range (and especially Bonafide) was the best on any point … but forgiveness for my inbetween intermediate and advanced level.

      • Paul,

        What about the Brahma’s forgiveness / accessibility ? In the 98mm category, for my level I’d think to the non metal version (Kabookie). In 88mm may I think differently ? Why do you think I can afford metal version in 88mm and perhaps not in 98mm ?
        Thank you so much for your time,

    • Cal,
      The brahma is a totally stable ski. It’s made exactly the same as the Bonafide (2.5 sheets of Ti), but it’s narrower. You’ll loose a bit of float, but you’ll gain quickness. The brahma is killer for short radius and GS turns and stable as hell in top speeds. I recommended the brahma over the bushwhacker because the metal will help u bust through crud. I have both pairs (Brahmas and bonafides) and I enjoy the brahmas a bit more because of their quickness. They are quite awesome in bumps as well and still offer plenty of float for me.
      Hope this helps.

      • Paul are you kidding, SURE it helps !
        Because it’s pretty rare to meet someone who owns the “bash brothers” ;) (never saw this expression before so please from now, quote me as its Author :)

        I well understood your point of view concerning my ski programm, what about the level required by the Brahma ? Because Bonafide seems to be fine for advanced++ skiers.

        Since you’re able to compare them, is there one among them that is more forgiving, less “legs breaking” at the end of the day or if we are not in top physical conditions ? Of course, I want a “sport” ski because cruising at 15 mph is not my cup of tea, so I know what I expect, but sometimes there are really “tough” skis, from morning 9 am to 5 pm !

        Thanks to all of you,

        • Cal,
          The Brahma’s and the Bonafide’s are both fairly stiff skis that require some effort and speed (in order to get the skis on the edge) to get the most out of them (as in keeping your weight forward and constantly driving forward). If you get lazy, they’ll be skiing you or you’ll be fighting the ski. The biggest difference for me is quickness and I find that the Brahmas have a bit stronger tail. The Brahmas are killer for all turn shapes, but the Bonafide’s prefer gs turns. I usually don’t bring out the Bonafide’s unless there is about 15cm of fresh. There is just no need (for me at-least). I did demo the Bushwackers before I bought the Brahmas and they were fun too. They are easier to turn at slower speeds and you can lay-off more and kind of cruise. They still do okay at high speeds. However, the Edge-hold is what got me hooked on the Brahmas – Outstanding, They rip shallow crud apart and are totally quiet at high speeds. I would suggest doing a demo before buying. It’s well worth it and you’ll be able to make the best choice for your ski level.

          • Thanks Paul,

            I found a great offer in a shop near my home for the 14 Bush, so I bought them. And if I’m too strong for them (always good to dream a bit), I’ll sell them next year for the Brahma ;)

            By the way thank to all of you for your help and your time.
            Have a great white winter !

  29. Cal

    There is no difference between the Kabookies and Bonafides over the last few years other than the top sheets. I would recommend the 173 size in either ski. What size skis have you been skiing on? If you’re coming off something really short and narrow then maybe the 166 might be a better size.

    • 25 years I’ve been skiing on 1m86, narrow and “straight” skis (Salomon F9). Reason why I’d like changing my program at the same time I change skis :)

      It’s weird to read nothing has changed from 2013 to 2015 for Bonafides or Kabookies. Some reviews don’t hesitate to change marks from a year to another though !

  30. I started to ski in 2011, self taught! I have been skiing on the 2011/2012 k2 shockwave @ 163cm. Thats what they sold me at sports chalet, so I went with it. I believe that I am a intermediate skier (fast learner). I want to upgrade my skies. My 3 choices are: 1. 2014 Blizzard Bonafides. 2. 2015 k2 Shreditor 92 3. 2015 Moment PB&J skis. Now, I don’t mind getting skis that are advanced intermediate since I am a fast learner. I am confused and stuck on which one will be a great all around ski for me. Im from California. I ski at Mammoth, Big Bear, go to Aspen once a year during season.

    I really need some good advice.

    Height 5’8
    Weight 210

    Thank You,

    • Hi, Andy – we haven’t reviewed the Shreditor 92, but I suspect that that will be the softest of the 3 skis you mention. And while the PB&J and Bonafide are very different skis (I trust you’ve figured that out from our reviews) I would be inclined to have you go with a 180 Bonafide. My second choice for you would be the 188 PB&J – given your size & the significant amount of tip and tail rocker of the PB&J, I would be reluctant to go shorter. But I think the 180 Bonafide makes the most sense.

      • Thanx for the reply,

        One last question : How about the 2015 Atomic Theory 177cm skies compared to the 180cm Bonafide?
        Which one will better fit me?

        Thank You,

  31. Hi Jonathan,

    great site, even greater reviews! thanks sooo much, guys, you´re the best!

    quick one: I´m getting hands on a pair of 12/13 Bonafides in 187cm mounted with Salomon STH bindings, seemingly in a good shape, at a very good price. I was not really looking for new skis and stumbled across this offer.

    Anyway, I just bought a Rossi Soul 7 last season with Plum bindings for touring (love them!) on powder days. And I have a lighter and narrower set-up for classic ski touring. However, I was always thinking about buying a used pair of all mountain skis for the couple of days in the season when I´m not touring but skiing in a resort on or of piste. I took the Rossi there last season but at higher speeds on icy groomers it felt a little chattery and not super confidence inspiring.

    I´m 6’1″ and 176 lbs. I would say I´m an intermediate to good skier but never really skied stiff or more race oriented skis in my life. But also I was always looking for skis that would give me more confidence to go faster on the edges on piste or through some chopped-up stuff in the side country. I´m a bit worried about the length. If I could choose i would definitely pick the 180 version, after all your suggestions in this thread.

    Do you think the 187 will kill me?

    thanks for your help!

    Fred

    • Thanks, Fred. And no, I have no reason to think that the 187 will kill you. While I think the 180s would probably work well for you, I think you ought to be able to get pretty comfortable on the (merely) 2.5 inches longer 187s. While there are some people who regard the Bonafide as a stiff, demanding ski, I am not one of them, and I hope my review reflects that.

  33. I am basically asking the same question, but Bonafide in 173/180? 5’10 165lbs aggresive skier. Live in Pacific NW, have a set of Rossi S7 in 188 so I am looking for something to use whenever their is less than a foot of new snow. I want something I gan go 60 down a groomer but I mostly ski trees/steeps/bumps.

    Note: I demo’d the 180 and loved them, I should have switched the length but tried other skis instead. Really wondering if the performance in the bumps/trees at 173 will outweigh the loss on the hard stuff.

    • Nick, given everything you’ve written, I kind of think you have no good reason to be wondering about the 173s. An “aggressive” skier of your size will have zero difficulty skiing the 180s in bumps and trees, and you will almost certainly lose some stability by dropping down. So if you loved the 180s … stick with them. I only weigh 10-15 pounds more than you, and I have no interest at all in the 173s, but a lot of interest in the 187s….

  34. Jonathan–

    Have you happened to try the Head Venturi 95s? I am sort of stuck between them and the Bonafides. I am about 50/50 on and off piste. I am generally a pretty aggressive and fast skier, and I love steep faces and open bowls where I can really cruise. But pretty often I find myself drawn to the singletrack through trees, which requires a bit more manueverability, which is why I’m looking at the Bonafide and Venturi over other options in the class. Any advice?

    Thanks,
    Sean

  35. Hi,
    I am looking at this ski but am concerned about the skill level of the ski. I’m a smack dab in the middle skier. I ski all blues and most single diamonds and I have dabble in dbl blacks and trees, but I’m not quite ready for that yet.

    I’m 5’8″ 155 lbs looking at 173. Do think this is too much ski for me at my current lvl?

    • It just depends on what characteristics you’re looking for in a ski. Ian recommeded softer more “playful” skis that yes are easy to use for some. But for others those “playful” skis can also feel unstable and unnerving to some. A 173 Bonafide is by no means too much ski for you. They are not stiff skis. Hand flex them compared to a lot of others 95-100 wasted skis in a store and you’ll find that longitudinally they’re actually some of the softer skis in their category. However they do have metal and are torsionally stiff. This makes the ski more calm and damp especially in firmer conditions. For some people this is a reassuring feeling that gives them confidence. For others who like more light and playful skis they might feel “heavy of slow”. It all depends on what you prefer. If you want to stay with Blizzard and are looking for a softer more playful ski check out the Regulator. A 94mm ski with no metal and more sidecut, and at a great price.

  36. I am almost exactly the same height and weight and ski double blacks (but not quickly). I demo’ed the Bonafide in the 173cm last winter and found them too much like hard work. The ski felt heavy and slow to initiate, coming alive only at pretty high speeds. For your height, weight and ability, I think there are much better choices out there IMHO, the Head Rev 98, the Atomic Automatic 102 (a really easy, intuitive ski to ski), the Salomon Rocker2 100, the Atomic Alibi (more playful but less substantial) or Ritual (more substantial).

  37. Hello Jonathan,

    Thanks a lot for the review. As everyone else on here, I am looking to purchase a pair of bonfide but struggling with the size. I’m 190lbs and 6″. I was going to go for the 180 but a retailer told me that I have a choice between the 173 and the 180, ‘depends on what I want out of the skis’. What are your thoughts on the suitable size?

    Thanks again!

    • Hi Omar, check out my review on “Yellow Gentian Ski Reviews”. We are similar in size, may help you confirm your ski length. I have 35-40 days on the 2014-15 180 cm. Craig

  39. I just grabbed the ski in a 180 (i’m 6’1 190) – what are your thoughts on mount position? Was thinking about mounting 0 or +1….. Thanks!!

  40. Hi there,

    few months ago I bothered you again and again with my questions and thoughts about Bonafide vs Kabookie vs Brahma vs Bushwackers (I eventually bought them, 173).

    This year I could try them most of the time on tracks and ice packs. Even if they don’t get the metal layer, I found them absolutely stable (even at my highest speed) and very easy to ski. Sometimes they want to ski faster than me but taking over control is always possible.
    On “spring” snow, they cut it as well, no problem.

    They are so light : it’s impressive. Yesterday while I was carrying my skibag, I thought I had forgotten them at my house ! But no, they were in the bag ! (I’m not kidding !). I think this weight aspect is very helpful to ski better and during a long time.

    I’m totally satisfied with these skis. I was really affraid no to find a ski stable on hard snow. I found them ! Now I’ll have to wait next year to try them on powder !

    Thanks to all for your help last autumn,

  41. Great review, as always.

    I’m looking for a daily driver to augment by DPS Wailer 112s (177 wt Dynafit Bindings) and BD Megawats (177 wt Look P14).

    The daily driver will be used on the east coast on days when the Megawatts and Wailers are overkill, which will be often.

    I’m looking at the Mantras and the 2016 Bonafides which I found online: http://theskimonster.com/store/ski-gear/skis/blizzard-bonafide-2016/

    Questions:
    1) Have you skied the 2016 Bonafides and what’s your take on the usage of carbon for an every day alpine ski?

    2) I’ve been skiing 177s for what feels like forever. Considering that I’m 5’5 and weigh 145lbs, but ski strong, should I go 174 or 180? I’m leaning towards 174 as I’m getting older (36) and it’s going to be an everyday ski.

    Thanks!
    DD

  42. Hi All;

    Just got back from Cham, had an “expert” level guide for 6 days and noticed most guides and many Chamonix locals and Europeans were using Dynastar 97. It has a wide rocker shovel and flat tail, 97mm underfoot. Any comment on this ski?

    • Dan, I picked up the 15/16 Bonfides a few weeks back in the 174. I’ve spent three days on them in varied conditions and have had no issues flexing them. I’m 5’5 and 145 lbs. Part of me wishes I sized up to the 180, but I guess it’s nice to have a shorter ski in my line-up. Hope this helps!

  44. Looking for help with Bonafide length decision. Torn between the 166 and 173 lengths. I’m 62, 5′-8″, 162lbs and haver been skiing for 40+ years. Want to upgrade from my old Salomon F9 195cm straight skis. Mostly ski Bachelor, Hood and Whistler and am moderately aggressive. Like to ski most everything – groomed, powder and trees, but not crazy about moguls.

    I demoed a pair of 166cm and they were so much fun, I was sold (no 173cm available to try). Wondering if I should stay with the 166 or upsize to the 173. I’m sure I candle handle them, but wonder if it will take some of the fun factor out.

    Appreciate the advice!

  45. I can’t decide between the bonified 173 or the 180, I am an advanced skier wouldn’t say expert. I’m a lengthy skinny guy at 5’11 145. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

  46. Hey Jonathon,
    Knowing your intimate knowledge of the Bibby Pros how would you compare the slow speed maneuverability (in steep, tight spots) of a 180 Bonafide to the 184 and 190 BP. I know that this is not an apples to apples comparison but just looking for a “relative” answer.

    Thanks,
    Steve

    • Hmmm, are we talking firm / windscoured snow, or punchy / grabby snow? Given how tail rockered the Bibby is (and how much wider it is than the Bonafide, I’d rather be on it in steep, punchy / grabby conditions—in those conditions, tip and tail rocker and width are your friends—especially at slow speeds. On firm steeps, either ski will be maneuverable at slow speeds, but I’d typically prefer a narrower ski with less tail rocker than the Bibby, and the current 15/16 Bonafide would be one of my top personal choices for such conditions.

  47. Hey there! Looking for a bit of advice here. I have a chance to buy last years Bonafides in a 180 from a buddy for cheap – the problem is, we wear different size boots and I would have to have the Ski mounted @ +1. I’m 6’1 200 and have skied this ski center and loved it… will +1 make much of a noticeable difference? How might it feel different? Easier initiation and less stability?

    Many thanks!

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