Ski: 2018-2019 G3 FINDr 102, 184 cm
Available lengths: 174, 179, 184, 189
Actual Tip to Tail Length (straight tape pull): 182.8 cm
Stated Dimensions (mm): 133-102-120
Blister’s Measured Dimensions (mm): 132-101.5-119
Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 1477 & 1482 g
Stated Sidecut Radius: 21-25 meters
Core Construction: Poplar/Paulownia + Carbon Fiber Laminate
Tip / Tail Splay (ski decambered): 58 mm / 13 mm
Traditional Camber Underfoot: 2-3 mm
Factory Recommended Line: -10.8 cm from center; 80.6 cm from tail
Test Locations: Northern New Mexico backcountry; Red Mountain Pass, CO; Grand Targhee & Teton Pass, WY
Days Skied (combined): 7
[Note: Our review was conducted on the 16/17 FINDr 102, which was not changed for 17/18 or 18/19, apart from graphics.]
Intro
G3’s FINDr series is returning for the 2018-2019 unchanged, and it is part of a G3’s remarkably consistent naming scheme — their lineup includes skis under the categories of FINDr, ROAMr, SENDr, and SEEKr.
(Which makes it quite surprising that their new touring binding is named the “Zed” and not the BINDr. C’mon, G3!)
The FINDr series is G3’s ski mountaineering line, and the FINDr 102 is the widest ski in that line (there is also the FINDr 84 and 96 — more info on those below).
At 102 mm underfoot, G3 says the FINDr 102 bridges the gap between “fat, floaty powder skis and super light mountaineering skis.” We like to call out bad marketing copy around here, but G3 has done a good job here — that’s a nice, concise phrase that gives a pretty good idea of what this ski is supposed to do.
So does it?
Shape
The FINDr 102 has minimal tip rocker: a relatively shallow tip rocker line is paired with a modest amount of tip splay. The same thing can be said of the 102’s tail rocker. End result is that there is a good bit of effective edge here, so this isn’t going to be a super loose, surfy ski like the G3 Synapse 109.
The FINDr 102 also has a blunted tip shape that I like quite a bit. There is some taper to it, but I have a general theory that as you lighten up a ski, you should be very, very careful about over-tapering the tip. The less mass you have up front, the more twitchy a ski is going to be, and the more inclined it’ll be to deflect all over the place. So when you’re already starting with a lightweight ski, I’d argue that it’s a bad idea to pull a bunch of weight from the front of the tip. (Unless you don’t actually care how well a ski goes downhill at higher speeds. If you don’t, then never mind.)
The FINDr 102 certainly qualifies as a lightweight ski, so it’s good to see that G3 left some surface area and mass up front.
Flex Pattern
There is a serious consistency here. The FINDR 102 is stout, but it’s not as stiff as the G3 Zenoxide 105. I love the consistency here, and I’d sum up the FINDr 102’s flex profile like this:
Tails: 8
Underfoot: 8
Shovels: 7
Tips: 7-6
Yep, pretty even front to back. I expect this flex pattern + shape to make for a ski that feels supportive on snow, and that offers a big sweet spot to stand on.
Suspension & Weight
My primary question about the FINDr 102 is what the suspension of this ski will feel like. This isn’t the profile of a deep-pow touring ski (again, if that’s what you’re after, see the G3 Synapse 109). Instead, the FINDr 102 has the shape and rocker profile of a ski you’d take out in decent conditions or mixed conditions. I don’t expect this ski to shine in deep snow (too little rocker), but I would expect it to perform well in firm and fairly difficult conditions — with the huge x-factor being the question of its suspension: given how stiff it is, will this lightweight ski feel jarring in refrozen coral?
I’m on record as saying that the G3 Zenoxide Carbon Fusion 105 is my favorite ‘bad conditions’ touring ski. It’s like a touring version of the 13/14 Volkl Mantra. And it is much heavier than the new FINDr 102, so I’d basically bet my life that the Zenoxide 105’s bad-snow performance will be better. But the question is, How much better?
Because if the FINDr 102 is still decent / adequate in tricky conditions, it sure saves a hell of a lot of weight over the Zenoxide 105 on the ascent. With the same G3 ION 12 demo binding the FINDr weighs ~2120 grams per ski (~1480 g without bindings) vs. the Zenoxide 105’s ~2538 grams per ski (~1876 & 1890 g without binding). For the mathematically challenged, that’s a substantial difference of more than 400 grams per ski.
But the fact is that the FINDr 102 is definitely in the right ballpark weight-wise for a mountaineering ski of this width, and it makes sense for long days with high mileage. And this is even more true today than it was when this ski was first announced for the 16/17 season. Back then, this ski looked crazy light. But today, more and more skis are coming out that are approaching this weight, which by comparison, make the FINDr 102 look less crazy, just “light”.
Construction
The FINDr 102 looks quite a bit like the Volkl V-Werks and BMT series. G3 says the FINDr has four layers of carbon, plus a CNC-milled wood core that pulls material away from the edges of the ski:
The FINDr doesn’t go quite as thin as the V-Werks BMT 109—it has a couple of additional millimeters of material that I am very, very intrigued by. That extra material is a full-wrap, polyurethane (PU) sidewall, which is intended to increase dampness (always an issue for carbon skis) and enhance durability (which is basically the only concern we’ve had with the very good BMT series).
So getting back to the suspension question, we’ll see how effectively those PU sidewalls help dampen this lightweight and relatively stiff ski.
The G3 FINDr Lineup:
The FINDr series includes the following models:
FINDr 102
Available lengths: 174, 179, 184, 189
Stated Dimensions (mm): 133-102-120
Stated Sidecut Radius: 21-25 meters
Stated Weight per Ski (174 cm): 1480 grams / 3 lbs 4 oz
FINDr 94
Available lengths: 167, 172, 177, 182
Stated Dimensions(mm): 126-94-113
Stated Sidecut Radius: 19-22 meters
Stated Weight per Ski (167 cm): 1370 grams
FINDr 86
Available lengths: 167, 182, 177, 182
Stated Dimensions (mm): 122-86-109
Stated Sidecut Radius: 16-19 meters
Stated Weight per Ski (167 cm): 1270 grams
NEXT: The Review by Cy Whitling and Jonathan Ellsworth
Let’s hear it: What did you think of these? Thinking about these vs. Helio 105s….
Spent a half day demoing the Helio 116 and I own a pair of the FINDr 86’s…yes opposite ends but gimme a second.
Based on this review it seems like the philosophy of shape/ mount/ weight carries all the way through the FINDr line. Based on Blister’s review of the 106, I feel like it does a much better job executing that philosophy in the thinner side of the line (Love my 86’s).
Seems like now a days it’s worth going with more rocker and a more forward mount as you get wider, for all the reasons Cy outlined. Especially if you want to ski tight steep stuff (jump turns were a breeze on the Helios). The Helio 116’s I demo’d I didn’t want to give back, compared some other directional 105+ light skis that left me meh (even a three letter company’s). The day was also far from ideal conditions wise being heavy rain saturated snow (thank god not ice) but in the coliours at Alpine I was loving them. I’d be interested to know Blister’s take on how they think powder board design features should change as the weight changes (like Jonathan’s tip taper theory)
Yes, I’m wondering as well. the backcountryskiingcanada website likes the G3’s much better than the Helios 105s. But then I heard some really good things about the BDs.
Demoed both the 175 Helio 105 and 172 FINDr 102 back to back this past weekend. Despite similar dimensions and weight, they skied very differently. The Helio felt more like a slarvy powder ski than I would have guessed, drifting around on the wet crud I was mostly on. They did ok on the icy sections once the edge engaged, but it did take a minute to get there. It skied like a powder ski, in other words.
The FINDr only really got good for me when the snow was smooth and you could carve medium radius turns. On the slightly deeper, more roughed up snow at the start of the run, they didn’t feel either locked into turns or slarvy. Kind of neither. A big vague. They didn’t get tossed too badly, but just didn’t feel locked in either. Hard to explain. Once the pitch backed off and the snow was smoother, they felt really nice. Damp for a carbon ski.
Only a couple runs on each at a demo, so no deep snow or touring, so YMMV.
Jonathan,
I’m 5’11”, 175lbs, aggressive skier….would you recommend a 184 or 189 in the G3 FINDR 102? I ski in western Montana, all conditions, 2000-6000′ average climbing/day…mix of trees and open glades, chutes, and bowl skiing.
not so patiently awaiting the rest of this review =D
Any plans to test either the Seekr 100 or 110?
Also curious of any plans to test the seekr.
Thirded.