Really excited for this review. Ski looks fun. Is there going to be any tall about the lengths too? Like how the 193 gunsmoke was much more beastly than the 186.
This one looks very interesting! I would love a Cochise with a smidge less power, particularly if the suspension feels more like the last generation of Cochise.
Jonathan, I’m keeping the torches and pitchforks in check until I read your take. Still hoping the Rustler I tested last season was a prototype and “not finished” as you suspect. Looking forward to your review.
Between this in the 180cm 112 waist or the Head Kore 117 in 180cm with 115mm waist? What was better all mountain performance to pair in between a 100mm enforcer and a 124mm moment nighttrain?
Will the full review be on the site or in the ‘buyers guide’ for this year?
I wouldn’t recommend the Rustler 11 as a touring ski, even 50-50. It’s fine on the way down off-piste, but the rounded tail doesn’t have a good skin attachment point. Also, due to the tip/tail rocker, the traction isn’t as good as a ski with less rocker and a flatter tail. (For reference, I own a pair and have ~10 days on them with a little touring. My main touring ski is a Salomon MTN Explore 95. Having taken then out separately on back-to-back days in the same terrain, the lower weight and better traction for the MTN Explore was a huge factor in how much fun I had.)
Good comments, Paul. Thanks. But seems extremely apples-to-oranges to be comparing a mountaineering ski (the extremely good MTN Explore 95), to what would be, in effect, a touring ski for deep snow — which is how we are recommending it?
No question, the MTN Explore 95 will feel better on a skin track. And it will be way less fun in backcountry pow — particularly *deep* pow.
I agree 100% with Sam’s assessment of the 11. I have a pair that has 4-5 mm of camber instead of the 2 mm of your test pair. I would say mine have a nice pop on groomers. I know this will sound like heresy to OG Bodacious owners and I’m one of them. My Rustlers are smoother through chop and cut up powder than my Bodacious. I feel many people who first ski the Rustler will misinterpret ease of use for lack of power as I initially did. The more you drive them the more you realize how powerful they are. They are the best ski I’ve ever used for attacking the unknown with regard to snow conditions and terrain. And for their width they are darn good on hard snow.
I mounted my 188cm R11 +2 of recommended, and find them very playful. I can still push them hard, and i find them quite poppy on somewhat soft groomers, they need some angle, but i get lots of energy turn to turn. Not the best ski for chop, but handles it well, though i think i would prefer my 185 ZeroG 108 in crud and chop.
Interested to hear your thoughts if you’re going for a remount.
I skied the Rustler 11 in the 180 recently (I’m 5’8” 155lbs aggressive skier). I can appreciate and agree with your comments. I ski out of Aspen and as a result, one factor I tend to lean to as my deciding factor (at least for anything but a pure powder ski) is capability in chop and variable conditions. I think Noah’s comments were right on. With the Rustler 11, I felt a lightness or tinnieness in hard conditions that left me underwhelmed. I’m not sure I’m willing to ski the new (I.e. old) Bodacious in a 186 because we have so many tight areas (I skied to 2013 in a shorter length), but I wish they had a little more metal in this ski. I tried it because I thought my Black Crows Animas were more of a powder ski than a big mountain ski but I find my Animas to have a more
substantial damp feel (and they are better in powder). Btw, I really liked
the Rustler 11 overall.
Daryl, for what it’s worth, I was skiing a 186 new (old) Bodacious for a lot of this season (though I suffered a season-ending injury in February) and was really surprised at how comfortable they felt slashing tighter turns, given that they’re stiff-ish, damp, and don’t have very much rocker, tip or tail. Obviously it’s not what they’re strictly best at, but they’re hands down my favorite inbounds ski for the PNW, and I’m a not-huge guy (6′, 160lbs) who likes skiing trees.
Hi Jonathan!
Thank you for review.
May be you can give me some advice regarding third ski in my quiver.
After a season with Brahma 186 I decided to change my Icelantic Nomad 105 which I had as ski for big mountains. My friend (he is freeride coach) knowing my skiing recommended Cochise and I just bought brand new 13-14 version 185 with very great discount. I’m going to use it for shitty conditions on mounatains with steeps having in mind that this ski should be good at this.
And now I need a third ski. I see it as a ski for soft snow and powder. But still want it to be capable in variable conditions for the cases when I will not guess the conditions or for snowy spring all mounting skiing on big mountain, where you can ocassionaly encounter shitty conditions but overall you expect some powder after night snowfall. And I want it to be more fun than enything else I have (I have also SL non-fis race volkl whih is fun but in completely different sense). I like some jumps, I like feel of rebound in the end of the turn more than long turns. And I’m not very skilled in powder yet and need some support from a ski. And finally I prefer to carve wherever I can and it is reasonable.
After reading almost all relavant reviews on Blister It looks to me that I need either QST 106 or Rustler 11. And I tend more to Salomon since it is lighter (also considering Kingpin for them to be able touring), should be more poppy and playfull in soft snow and powder). My friend who spent last season on them says they require to be more precise but overall very interesting in soft and he likes them. Not sure if it going to glide and slash turn capble in deeper snow.
Another reason why only Rustler and QST, because I have acess to them for a good price. And preorde for next year Blizzard ends in 4 days and I still not 100% sure.
Thank you in advance.
Loved the new Gear Guide (18/19), but would have liked to have seen the Rustler being compared with the new (lighter) Wildcat (not the tour version). Trying to decide between the 190cm Wildcat or the Rustler 11 in the 188cm.
Has anyone skied both the 188 and 192. I was looking at the specs on evo and the turning radius jumps from 19m for the 188 to 23 for the 192. It makes me think that the 192 is a little more chargy than the 188. Anyways I was thinking about either mounting the 188 at the recommended or bumping the 192 up to +1 or +2. This would be a resort pow ski for me. Let me know what ya think!
For Bigbear42: just bought 180cm R11 (17/18) and turning radius on top sheet shows 19m – maybe evo had a mistake and for 188cm it should be 21 i.e. 2m jump in radius between different sizes of ski? So the difference between 188 and 192 might not be so bug after all.
Keep up the good work on reviews!
One ski shop told me I should ski the 180; another told me to ski 188. I’m 6’2 and 210 lbs. I’m 57 years old and aggressive – for my age. I ski 185 Enforcer 100. Any thoughts on the 180 or 188? thanks.
Hi, do you have bought these ski’s? If yes, which length have you chosen?
I am quiet sure the rustler will be a good fit for me. I want to upgrade my first generation soul 7 180 which are fine but too short for me and I want to have some more float and stability, but still playful.
I’m almost 6′ and 175 lbs and really doubting between the 180 and 188.
The soul 7 has a noticeable bigger amount of taper.
Try you absolute best to demo both sizes, but if you can’t, you’ll be fine with the 188s. I’m 5’8 195 and I ski the 180s
I am looking to get a third quiver powder ski and was thinking of Rustler 11; I presently ski on a Brahma and a Nordica 100; I weigh 206 and would describe myself as advanced on on hard conditions and still improving in powder; not looking for touring setup but rather downhill. Let me know what you think: 1) is rustler sufficiently differentiated vs Nordica 100?; 2) other downhill/powder alternatives. Thanks, HCool
Hi! Has anyone skied both these Rustler 11’s and the Rossi Super 7 HDs? I am 5’11” / 155 lbs advanced but mostly directional skier trying to figure out which would be best for a backcountry trip to japan. Cheers!
Seems as if rustler 11 would go along well with for example Salomon shift binding. The “problem” in my case is that I really want to try the Tecton 12. Alltough pretty lightweight but would you guys say that Rustler 11 is a too beefy and demanding ski for Tecton 12?
For what it’s worth, I ski 192cm Rustler 11 with Kingpins and Scarpa Freedom SL boots. Have no problems driving the the ski, and regularly use it inbounds while skiing fast like and like an idiot.
Kevin. What’s your height and weight? I just picked up the 192s but am concerned that I should have gone with the 188s. I’m 6’3” and 210 lbs.
Looking for my first 110+ 50/50 pow ski, with more backcountry skiing than resort. Mostly tight trees in my home area and for the occasional deeper days in Norway in more open alpine terrain.
Coming from a Corvus FB 188, which felt good lengthwise but lost it’s snap due to too much resort skiing. Currently touring on 18/19 qst106 188, which feels more nimble than the Corvus. I’m planning on preserving the qst for only touring to not wear it out too fast.
I’m wondering if the more rockered the 188 Rustler will feel much shorter than these two and therefore I might go for the 192? 6ft and 200lbs plus gear, so looking for something wider than the qst for 50/50 ski.
I ride both 188 and 192 at -1.8 and -2mm from recomended (back). I am 1m85 / 83kl. For my size the 192 is very much better to pass over the pow and my monting is good for that, i can charge front… Its playfull, but still can be skied fast in long turns… You can change rythme very esasily, super smooth in narrow couloires and in forest but stable at high speed in large faces… work well in pow (light / heavy) in spring snow and pretty good in ice… In choppy i préfer straight tails.
So I got a really good deal on some Rustler 11 188. I am 5’10” and 200. I want it to be a hard charging power day ski for my quiver and maybe a 50/50. I know it is a longer ski for me but nervous it may be too long. Any thoughts?
I’m exactly your height and weight and I have the Rustler 11 in 188. I put a pair of Shift bindings on them and I love it. Kickturns are a bit tricky sometimes but I wouldn’t size down.
@ Hans, I am 5’9 and 150, and I ski the 188. It is not a difficult ski. You’ll be fine.
The Blizzard website gives the mass of the 188 as 2170g. That’s a fair bit more than ~2050g..
Has it got heavier in subsequent years to your version?
Jonathan, Great work on all reviews! I have some mobility issues in my ankles due to injury. Due to this, and without going into detail, I prefer more traditional mounting points/skis. Mount point -10 to -11 from center. There are very few powder skis anymore in this category. I like what I read about the Rustler 11. It fits what I am looking for. Would this ski work -2 or -3 from recommended? Would this “ruin” the skiability? I saw a review for the Kore 117 which recommended this for more traditional (not centered) skiers. Most reviews prefer +2 rather then -2. I have a pair of 2006 gotamas, which I LOVE, and they gave the option of “freestyle” and traditional. I have them on recommended Traditional-all the way back. Currently ski 2020 Mantra M5 and Mantra 102. Volkl Blaze 106 for BC. Appreciate any insight.
Rustler 11 z roku 19/20 je diametrálně odlišný od rustleru 20/21 (21/22 je naprosto stejný včetně grafiky z důvodů malého prodeje v roce 20/21 nevyplatilo by se vyrábět nové lyže) je těžší, májí mesí ohyb špičky(ne rocker) a větší camber ani vaše foto neodpvídá rustleru
FYI for those interested I just received a pair of all orange (21/22) Rustler 11’s in 192cm and they weigh ~ 2335grams each. Not sure whether I go with Shifts or Griffons. They are a bit on the heavy side for touring, but short tours shouldn’t be too bad – otoh I prefer the griffons for resort laps especially for gondi/tram laps where skis are on/off and clearing snow from the bottom of the boots is mandatory.
Hey All, FWIW, I’m 5’11”, 170 lbs. and ski the 188 Rustler 11’s. They are my widest powder ski. I find them very manuverable in tight spots. They make powder and creamy new snow easy and yet have enough body to handle punchy high wind affected snow which we just had here in Mammoth. Snowmageddon. And I’m talking rough satstrugi formed by 100 MPH winds and smoother semi breakable wind slabs.
Really excited for this review. Ski looks fun. Is there going to be any tall about the lengths too? Like how the 193 gunsmoke was much more beastly than the 186.
This one looks very interesting! I would love a Cochise with a smidge less power, particularly if the suspension feels more like the last generation of Cochise.
Jonathan, I’m keeping the torches and pitchforks in check until I read your take. Still hoping the Rustler I tested last season was a prototype and “not finished” as you suspect. Looking forward to your review.
Between this in the 180cm 112 waist or the Head Kore 117 in 180cm with 115mm waist? What was better all mountain performance to pair in between a 100mm enforcer and a 124mm moment nighttrain?
Will the full review be on the site or in the ‘buyers guide’ for this year?
I wouldn’t recommend the Rustler 11 as a touring ski, even 50-50. It’s fine on the way down off-piste, but the rounded tail doesn’t have a good skin attachment point. Also, due to the tip/tail rocker, the traction isn’t as good as a ski with less rocker and a flatter tail. (For reference, I own a pair and have ~10 days on them with a little touring. My main touring ski is a Salomon MTN Explore 95. Having taken then out separately on back-to-back days in the same terrain, the lower weight and better traction for the MTN Explore was a huge factor in how much fun I had.)
Good comments, Paul. Thanks. But seems extremely apples-to-oranges to be comparing a mountaineering ski (the extremely good MTN Explore 95), to what would be, in effect, a touring ski for deep snow — which is how we are recommending it?
No question, the MTN Explore 95 will feel better on a skin track. And it will be way less fun in backcountry pow — particularly *deep* pow.
I agree 100% with Sam’s assessment of the 11. I have a pair that has 4-5 mm of camber instead of the 2 mm of your test pair. I would say mine have a nice pop on groomers. I know this will sound like heresy to OG Bodacious owners and I’m one of them. My Rustlers are smoother through chop and cut up powder than my Bodacious. I feel many people who first ski the Rustler will misinterpret ease of use for lack of power as I initially did. The more you drive them the more you realize how powerful they are. They are the best ski I’ve ever used for attacking the unknown with regard to snow conditions and terrain. And for their width they are darn good on hard snow.
I mounted my 188cm R11 +2 of recommended, and find them very playful. I can still push them hard, and i find them quite poppy on somewhat soft groomers, they need some angle, but i get lots of energy turn to turn. Not the best ski for chop, but handles it well, though i think i would prefer my 185 ZeroG 108 in crud and chop.
Interested to hear your thoughts if you’re going for a remount.
I skied the Rustler 11 in the 180 recently (I’m 5’8” 155lbs aggressive skier). I can appreciate and agree with your comments. I ski out of Aspen and as a result, one factor I tend to lean to as my deciding factor (at least for anything but a pure powder ski) is capability in chop and variable conditions. I think Noah’s comments were right on. With the Rustler 11, I felt a lightness or tinnieness in hard conditions that left me underwhelmed. I’m not sure I’m willing to ski the new (I.e. old) Bodacious in a 186 because we have so many tight areas (I skied to 2013 in a shorter length), but I wish they had a little more metal in this ski. I tried it because I thought my Black Crows Animas were more of a powder ski than a big mountain ski but I find my Animas to have a more
substantial damp feel (and they are better in powder). Btw, I really liked
the Rustler 11 overall.
Daryl, for what it’s worth, I was skiing a 186 new (old) Bodacious for a lot of this season (though I suffered a season-ending injury in February) and was really surprised at how comfortable they felt slashing tighter turns, given that they’re stiff-ish, damp, and don’t have very much rocker, tip or tail. Obviously it’s not what they’re strictly best at, but they’re hands down my favorite inbounds ski for the PNW, and I’m a not-huge guy (6′, 160lbs) who likes skiing trees.
Hi Jonathan!
Thank you for review.
May be you can give me some advice regarding third ski in my quiver.
After a season with Brahma 186 I decided to change my Icelantic Nomad 105 which I had as ski for big mountains. My friend (he is freeride coach) knowing my skiing recommended Cochise and I just bought brand new 13-14 version 185 with very great discount. I’m going to use it for shitty conditions on mounatains with steeps having in mind that this ski should be good at this.
And now I need a third ski. I see it as a ski for soft snow and powder. But still want it to be capable in variable conditions for the cases when I will not guess the conditions or for snowy spring all mounting skiing on big mountain, where you can ocassionaly encounter shitty conditions but overall you expect some powder after night snowfall. And I want it to be more fun than enything else I have (I have also SL non-fis race volkl whih is fun but in completely different sense). I like some jumps, I like feel of rebound in the end of the turn more than long turns. And I’m not very skilled in powder yet and need some support from a ski. And finally I prefer to carve wherever I can and it is reasonable.
After reading almost all relavant reviews on Blister It looks to me that I need either QST 106 or Rustler 11. And I tend more to Salomon since it is lighter (also considering Kingpin for them to be able touring), should be more poppy and playfull in soft snow and powder). My friend who spent last season on them says they require to be more precise but overall very interesting in soft and he likes them. Not sure if it going to glide and slash turn capble in deeper snow.
Another reason why only Rustler and QST, because I have acess to them for a good price. And preorde for next year Blizzard ends in 4 days and I still not 100% sure.
Thank you in advance.
Loved the new Gear Guide (18/19), but would have liked to have seen the Rustler being compared with the new (lighter) Wildcat (not the tour version). Trying to decide between the 190cm Wildcat or the Rustler 11 in the 188cm.
Has anyone skied both the 188 and 192. I was looking at the specs on evo and the turning radius jumps from 19m for the 188 to 23 for the 192. It makes me think that the 192 is a little more chargy than the 188. Anyways I was thinking about either mounting the 188 at the recommended or bumping the 192 up to +1 or +2. This would be a resort pow ski for me. Let me know what ya think!
For Bigbear42: just bought 180cm R11 (17/18) and turning radius on top sheet shows 19m – maybe evo had a mistake and for 188cm it should be 21 i.e. 2m jump in radius between different sizes of ski? So the difference between 188 and 192 might not be so bug after all.
Keep up the good work on reviews!
One ski shop told me I should ski the 180; another told me to ski 188. I’m 6’2 and 210 lbs. I’m 57 years old and aggressive – for my age. I ski 185 Enforcer 100. Any thoughts on the 180 or 188? thanks.
Hi, do you have bought these ski’s? If yes, which length have you chosen?
I am quiet sure the rustler will be a good fit for me. I want to upgrade my first generation soul 7 180 which are fine but too short for me and I want to have some more float and stability, but still playful.
I’m almost 6′ and 175 lbs and really doubting between the 180 and 188.
The soul 7 has a noticeable bigger amount of taper.
Try you absolute best to demo both sizes, but if you can’t, you’ll be fine with the 188s. I’m 5’8 195 and I ski the 180s
I am looking to get a third quiver powder ski and was thinking of Rustler 11; I presently ski on a Brahma and a Nordica 100; I weigh 206 and would describe myself as advanced on on hard conditions and still improving in powder; not looking for touring setup but rather downhill. Let me know what you think: 1) is rustler sufficiently differentiated vs Nordica 100?; 2) other downhill/powder alternatives. Thanks, HCool
Hi! Has anyone skied both these Rustler 11’s and the Rossi Super 7 HDs? I am 5’11” / 155 lbs advanced but mostly directional skier trying to figure out which would be best for a backcountry trip to japan. Cheers!
Seems as if rustler 11 would go along well with for example Salomon shift binding. The “problem” in my case is that I really want to try the Tecton 12. Alltough pretty lightweight but would you guys say that Rustler 11 is a too beefy and demanding ski for Tecton 12?
For what it’s worth, I ski 192cm Rustler 11 with Kingpins and Scarpa Freedom SL boots. Have no problems driving the the ski, and regularly use it inbounds while skiing fast like and like an idiot.
Kevin. What’s your height and weight? I just picked up the 192s but am concerned that I should have gone with the 188s. I’m 6’3” and 210 lbs.
Looking for my first 110+ 50/50 pow ski, with more backcountry skiing than resort. Mostly tight trees in my home area and for the occasional deeper days in Norway in more open alpine terrain.
Coming from a Corvus FB 188, which felt good lengthwise but lost it’s snap due to too much resort skiing. Currently touring on 18/19 qst106 188, which feels more nimble than the Corvus. I’m planning on preserving the qst for only touring to not wear it out too fast.
I’m wondering if the more rockered the 188 Rustler will feel much shorter than these two and therefore I might go for the 192? 6ft and 200lbs plus gear, so looking for something wider than the qst for 50/50 ski.
I ride both 188 and 192 at -1.8 and -2mm from recomended (back). I am 1m85 / 83kl. For my size the 192 is very much better to pass over the pow and my monting is good for that, i can charge front… Its playfull, but still can be skied fast in long turns… You can change rythme very esasily, super smooth in narrow couloires and in forest but stable at high speed in large faces… work well in pow (light / heavy) in spring snow and pretty good in ice… In choppy i préfer straight tails.
So I got a really good deal on some Rustler 11 188. I am 5’10” and 200. I want it to be a hard charging power day ski for my quiver and maybe a 50/50. I know it is a longer ski for me but nervous it may be too long. Any thoughts?
I’m exactly your height and weight and I have the Rustler 11 in 188. I put a pair of Shift bindings on them and I love it. Kickturns are a bit tricky sometimes but I wouldn’t size down.
@ Hans, I am 5’9 and 150, and I ski the 188. It is not a difficult ski. You’ll be fine.
The Blizzard website gives the mass of the 188 as 2170g. That’s a fair bit more than ~2050g..
Has it got heavier in subsequent years to your version?
Jonathan, Great work on all reviews! I have some mobility issues in my ankles due to injury. Due to this, and without going into detail, I prefer more traditional mounting points/skis. Mount point -10 to -11 from center. There are very few powder skis anymore in this category. I like what I read about the Rustler 11. It fits what I am looking for. Would this ski work -2 or -3 from recommended? Would this “ruin” the skiability? I saw a review for the Kore 117 which recommended this for more traditional (not centered) skiers. Most reviews prefer +2 rather then -2. I have a pair of 2006 gotamas, which I LOVE, and they gave the option of “freestyle” and traditional. I have them on recommended Traditional-all the way back. Currently ski 2020 Mantra M5 and Mantra 102. Volkl Blaze 106 for BC. Appreciate any insight.
Rustler 11 z roku 19/20 je diametrálně odlišný od rustleru 20/21 (21/22 je naprosto stejný včetně grafiky z důvodů malého prodeje v roce 20/21 nevyplatilo by se vyrábět nové lyže) je těžší, májí mesí ohyb špičky(ne rocker) a větší camber ani vaše foto neodpvídá rustleru
FYI for those interested I just received a pair of all orange (21/22) Rustler 11’s in 192cm and they weigh ~ 2335grams each. Not sure whether I go with Shifts or Griffons. They are a bit on the heavy side for touring, but short tours shouldn’t be too bad – otoh I prefer the griffons for resort laps especially for gondi/tram laps where skis are on/off and clearing snow from the bottom of the boots is mandatory.
Hey All, FWIW, I’m 5’11”, 170 lbs. and ski the 188 Rustler 11’s. They are my widest powder ski. I find them very manuverable in tight spots. They make powder and creamy new snow easy and yet have enough body to handle punchy high wind affected snow which we just had here in Mammoth. Snowmageddon. And I’m talking rough satstrugi formed by 100 MPH winds and smoother semi breakable wind slabs.