Hmmm, not really. (And I’m kind of tempted to add, “at all”). But we’ll put that 184 Wrenegade 108 vs. 184 Devastator in our Deep Dive article.
I stand corrected. Just thought there was a similarity in the way they ski: both float well (my 184 Dev pair have softened up a bit and float pretty dang well), ski super easy but can still charge to a certain speed. Different mount points of course. My guess is wren charges more in the traditional sense. 184 Dev ain’t much of a charger but is so manuverable it is pretty easy to ski relatively fast in soft conditions. So was thinking different ski , design but similar outcome on snow. Looking forward to your direct comparison. Appreciate the reply.
All makes sense. But emphasis with 184 cm Devastator is: “soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo maneuverable.”
Thanks for the insights guys. As an owner of a 179cm Wren 108 I’ve been waiting on this one for awhile now. However, I am intrigued by the Enforcer 110 and though I am sure you will touch on this comparison in your deep dive, would you mind shedding some light on how which one of these two skis (184cm Wren 108 & 185cm Enforcer 110) offers a more stable, damp ride with better suspension? Thanks!
Good question. We’re putting together the Deep Dive now (and I was just on the Nordica Enforcer 110 again on Monday), so we’ll be sure to address this. (And I’m curious to see how similarly Paul Forward’s answer will line up with mine.)
I’d be interested in a comparison to the Line Supernatural 108! Especially for people who are looking for a replacement for the SN 108, since it’s getting discontinued.
Yep, will do.
I’ve noticed the terms ‘suspension’ and ‘chassis’ used in ski reviews lately. Can you define these please?
Hmmm, you’ve seen the term ‘chassis’ in one of our ski reviews? I can’t say that I can recall that (so please correct me if I’m wrong). But you’re certainly correct that “suspension” is a term that we are using more and more — and it’s a quality that has become increasingly important to me, personally, when evaluating skis.
But rather than have this topic / question get buried in this particular comment section, I think this would serve as a good Topic of the Week / Ski 101, so we’ll put something together and try to post next week, if that’s okay.
Right. ‘chassis’ is term used in a review of the Wrenegade 98 on exoticskis.com. It seems like a subjective way to talk about the construction of the ski: “ON3P Wren chassis [is] best described as a quiet, controlled envelope around a springy, spunky core”
Any chance of a comparison to the Moment Belafonte in the deep dive? Thanks!
Yep, I’d forgotten to include the Belafonte in our initial list of Deep Dive comparisons, so good call Jamie.
Is that Deep Dive article still coming?
Did you ever release the deep dive article for this ski?
Long story short, My wrens ended up mounted about .5cm or so ahead of recommended. I know ON3P is very particular about their mounting spots, so I’m wondering if I should be concerned. Anyone able to weigh in?
Email ON3P and ask them. They have really good customer service and will write you back.
Hey Jonathan, quick question on size…
I know these guys are some of the ONLY ones in the game that are actually true to size, Im 5’8, 155 and an aggressive skier, do you think at my weight the 179 would be the better bet, or would the 184 still be doable for an every day ride? I see that both of the reviewers are upwards of 6ft and are riding the 184.
Thanks!
Hey Pat,
I’m about 5’9” 165 and the 184s are fine. Go for it.
Sounds like my 184 devastator?
Hmmm, not really. (And I’m kind of tempted to add, “at all”). But we’ll put that 184 Wrenegade 108 vs. 184 Devastator in our Deep Dive article.
I stand corrected. Just thought there was a similarity in the way they ski: both float well (my 184 Dev pair have softened up a bit and float pretty dang well), ski super easy but can still charge to a certain speed. Different mount points of course. My guess is wren charges more in the traditional sense. 184 Dev ain’t much of a charger but is so manuverable it is pretty easy to ski relatively fast in soft conditions. So was thinking different ski , design but similar outcome on snow. Looking forward to your direct comparison. Appreciate the reply.
All makes sense. But emphasis with 184 cm Devastator is: “soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo maneuverable.”
Thanks for the insights guys. As an owner of a 179cm Wren 108 I’ve been waiting on this one for awhile now. However, I am intrigued by the Enforcer 110 and though I am sure you will touch on this comparison in your deep dive, would you mind shedding some light on how which one of these two skis (184cm Wren 108 & 185cm Enforcer 110) offers a more stable, damp ride with better suspension? Thanks!
Good question. We’re putting together the Deep Dive now (and I was just on the Nordica Enforcer 110 again on Monday), so we’ll be sure to address this. (And I’m curious to see how similarly Paul Forward’s answer will line up with mine.)
I’d be interested in a comparison to the Line Supernatural 108! Especially for people who are looking for a replacement for the SN 108, since it’s getting discontinued.
Yep, will do.
I’ve noticed the terms ‘suspension’ and ‘chassis’ used in ski reviews lately. Can you define these please?
Hmmm, you’ve seen the term ‘chassis’ in one of our ski reviews? I can’t say that I can recall that (so please correct me if I’m wrong). But you’re certainly correct that “suspension” is a term that we are using more and more — and it’s a quality that has become increasingly important to me, personally, when evaluating skis.
But rather than have this topic / question get buried in this particular comment section, I think this would serve as a good Topic of the Week / Ski 101, so we’ll put something together and try to post next week, if that’s okay.
Right. ‘chassis’ is term used in a review of the Wrenegade 98 on exoticskis.com. It seems like a subjective way to talk about the construction of the ski: “ON3P Wren chassis [is] best described as a quiet, controlled envelope around a springy, spunky core”
Any chance of a comparison to the Moment Belafonte in the deep dive? Thanks!
Yep, I’d forgotten to include the Belafonte in our initial list of Deep Dive comparisons, so good call Jamie.
Is that Deep Dive article still coming?
Did you ever release the deep dive article for this ski?
Long story short, My wrens ended up mounted about .5cm or so ahead of recommended. I know ON3P is very particular about their mounting spots, so I’m wondering if I should be concerned. Anyone able to weigh in?
Email ON3P and ask them. They have really good customer service and will write you back.
Hey Jonathan, quick question on size…
I know these guys are some of the ONLY ones in the game that are actually true to size, Im 5’8, 155 and an aggressive skier, do you think at my weight the 179 would be the better bet, or would the 184 still be doable for an every day ride? I see that both of the reviewers are upwards of 6ft and are riding the 184.
Thanks!
Hey Pat,
I’m about 5’9” 165 and the 184s are fine. Go for it.