16/17 – 17/18 Rossignol Super 7 RD17/18 Rossignol Super 7 RDRossignol Super 7 RD – Tip ProfileRossignol Super 7 RD – Tail ProfileRossignol Super 7 RDRossignol Super 7 RD – Bases
Sounds like this ski could be very similar to the all new Armada Tracer 118Chx. Any plans to review?
No immediate plans, George, but we’ll put it on the list.
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for the great review. How would you say this ski compares to the Praxis Protest?
Cheers,
Davyn
Great review, it seems like the Super 7 RD and QST 118 are quite similar. I’m just curious as to why is seems like this review is much more positive than the QST 118. Or are the skis not that similar?
Thank you, Jason. And while I fear this may be an unhelpful response … I think Paul and I have both accurately laid out how both of these skis perform on snow. So in that sense, the two (long) reviews are themselves the answer to your question about how similar / different the two skis are. But the short answer (which Paul points out in his review) is that the QST 118 is a more powder-specific ski than a good number of ~118mm-wide skis we’ve reviewed. Which makes sense, given that it is the replacement of the Salomon Rocker2 122.
This summer, I bought the Super 7 RD on the strength of your reviews, mostly. No demo.
Today I went to the ski industry demo at Loveland Basin, all the brand reps there, including two from Rossignol. I asked if the RD skied like the honeycomb (blue) Squad 7. I told them I’d just gotten the RD, but my fear was that it might ski too much like the honeycomb, blue Squad 7 (see below).
They told me it was that same Squad 7, mostly no difference except cosmetics. Construction and shape were the same. (Never mind that it’s about 150 gm lighter, and paulownia plus carbon & basalt laminate instead of poplar?) They went into further detail also, but I only half remember it.
They said I should have gotten another ski, possibly the Black Ops, which was their ski of choice: playful charger, they said. (And that ski, they said, was actually made by modifying the older, pre-honeycomb, heavier Squad 7.)
I’d read your RD reviews, and so was incredulous. I asked them the same questions in a bunch of different ways, and got the same answers.
Yikes!
I’d read your review and deep dives on this ski (including deep dives on it and the QST 118 comparing it to the RD) and it sounded very interesting. It seemed like the RD had solved the reported problems with the Squad 7 (tips “walling off”/stalling on jumps and on abrupt transitions in lots of snow unless mounted back; and “stuck tails” at turning when wanting quicker maneuverability, esp. in powder bumps: both problems I too experienced when demoing the Squad 7).
Having lots of “pop” to go along with float seemed especially appealing to me about the RD, though I’d use that pop, I’m guessing, in mogul turning, and up and down fun rather than lots of bigger jumps.
[But will they want to go too fast for me, to do these things that sound so good? That too has been my reservation. Note: My Katanas 184 & 191, and Bibby Pro 184s don’t need too much speed for me.]
So, as I said, I got a pair this summer, and have looked forward to trying them if and when the snow gets deeper.
Please, are these Rossi reps just ill-informed about their own ski????????
As usual, you guys nailed it with this review. I have three days on them in PNW rain, powder, and heavy powder. Best ski I’ve owned, and glad I pulled the trigger based on Sam’s recommendation and your reviews. The ski is surprisingly easy to ski and very predictable, stable enough through chop, not hooky, and can also pivot/slash really easily in powder or on groomers. The camber and pop makes bouncing around in powder a blast. Really quick for a 190 ski with a 120 waist, but the long turn radius allows it to go straight and fast too. Very fun ski, even on groomers.
Just for reference, I skied both the 190 and 184 Bibby pros for two years and never totally loved either one. The 190 is definitely more ski and damper than the RD, but the RD has much better float than the 184 and I think just as versatile. So, if you want an easier going Bibby 190, I would definitely recommend the RD (hopefully Rossi keeps making it).
I also had a pair of K2 Mindbender 116s to start off this season, but found them too soft in the tip for my liking. They are really good at short radius turns and have good float in powder, but the RD has a more consistent stiffer flex and a lot more pop. If you like to go fast and straight, the RD is a much better call.
Hey Man!
Did you mount the ski at the „all-mountain“ line?
Just wondering how many of you have these and weighed them?
I just picked up a brand new pair of 17/18’s and on my scale one is 2275 and the other 2315!?!? That is a far cry from the weights Blister measured on the pair of 17/18’s they tested.
I wanted to put Shifts on them (likely still will) for slackcountry stuff, but the extra heft certainly surprised me.
Sounds like this ski could be very similar to the all new Armada Tracer 118Chx. Any plans to review?
No immediate plans, George, but we’ll put it on the list.
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for the great review. How would you say this ski compares to the Praxis Protest?
Cheers,
Davyn
Great review, it seems like the Super 7 RD and QST 118 are quite similar. I’m just curious as to why is seems like this review is much more positive than the QST 118. Or are the skis not that similar?
Thank you, Jason. And while I fear this may be an unhelpful response … I think Paul and I have both accurately laid out how both of these skis perform on snow. So in that sense, the two (long) reviews are themselves the answer to your question about how similar / different the two skis are. But the short answer (which Paul points out in his review) is that the QST 118 is a more powder-specific ski than a good number of ~118mm-wide skis we’ve reviewed. Which makes sense, given that it is the replacement of the Salomon Rocker2 122.
This summer, I bought the Super 7 RD on the strength of your reviews, mostly. No demo.
Today I went to the ski industry demo at Loveland Basin, all the brand reps there, including two from Rossignol. I asked if the RD skied like the honeycomb (blue) Squad 7. I told them I’d just gotten the RD, but my fear was that it might ski too much like the honeycomb, blue Squad 7 (see below).
They told me it was that same Squad 7, mostly no difference except cosmetics. Construction and shape were the same. (Never mind that it’s about 150 gm lighter, and paulownia plus carbon & basalt laminate instead of poplar?) They went into further detail also, but I only half remember it.
They said I should have gotten another ski, possibly the Black Ops, which was their ski of choice: playful charger, they said. (And that ski, they said, was actually made by modifying the older, pre-honeycomb, heavier Squad 7.)
I’d read your RD reviews, and so was incredulous. I asked them the same questions in a bunch of different ways, and got the same answers.
Yikes!
I’d read your review and deep dives on this ski (including deep dives on it and the QST 118 comparing it to the RD) and it sounded very interesting. It seemed like the RD had solved the reported problems with the Squad 7 (tips “walling off”/stalling on jumps and on abrupt transitions in lots of snow unless mounted back; and “stuck tails” at turning when wanting quicker maneuverability, esp. in powder bumps: both problems I too experienced when demoing the Squad 7).
Having lots of “pop” to go along with float seemed especially appealing to me about the RD, though I’d use that pop, I’m guessing, in mogul turning, and up and down fun rather than lots of bigger jumps.
[But will they want to go too fast for me, to do these things that sound so good? That too has been my reservation. Note: My Katanas 184 & 191, and Bibby Pro 184s don’t need too much speed for me.]
So, as I said, I got a pair this summer, and have looked forward to trying them if and when the snow gets deeper.
Please, are these Rossi reps just ill-informed about their own ski????????
As usual, you guys nailed it with this review. I have three days on them in PNW rain, powder, and heavy powder. Best ski I’ve owned, and glad I pulled the trigger based on Sam’s recommendation and your reviews. The ski is surprisingly easy to ski and very predictable, stable enough through chop, not hooky, and can also pivot/slash really easily in powder or on groomers. The camber and pop makes bouncing around in powder a blast. Really quick for a 190 ski with a 120 waist, but the long turn radius allows it to go straight and fast too. Very fun ski, even on groomers.
Just for reference, I skied both the 190 and 184 Bibby pros for two years and never totally loved either one. The 190 is definitely more ski and damper than the RD, but the RD has much better float than the 184 and I think just as versatile. So, if you want an easier going Bibby 190, I would definitely recommend the RD (hopefully Rossi keeps making it).
I also had a pair of K2 Mindbender 116s to start off this season, but found them too soft in the tip for my liking. They are really good at short radius turns and have good float in powder, but the RD has a more consistent stiffer flex and a lot more pop. If you like to go fast and straight, the RD is a much better call.
Hey Man!
Did you mount the ski at the „all-mountain“ line?
Just wondering how many of you have these and weighed them?
I just picked up a brand new pair of 17/18’s and on my scale one is 2275 and the other 2315!?!? That is a far cry from the weights Blister measured on the pair of 17/18’s they tested.
I wanted to put Shifts on them (likely still will) for slackcountry stuff, but the extra heft certainly surprised me.