Definitely interested to hear how this ski compared to the Rock’air. Currently looking for a mid-fat dedicated touring ski and both of these are available for about the same sort of price in the UK right now
Sam,
any input on the skis yet? Using some La Sportiva Nanos for powder touring, but they ski a bit to lightweight for my liking.
How is slarving on the Superguides? Thanks!
Are the holes/slots big enough for Voile straps to build a sled?
Hello,
any news regarding this interesting ski? I’m wondering if it’s a bit too nervous for a light skier due to its low weight paired with such a stout flex.
Simone
Hey guys, I own this ski (last years graphics) in a 175 cm. It’s a light ski for its width and powerful flex but it’s definitely not a nervous ski. On the contrary it’s on the damper side but still lively in how it pushes back as long as you’re on top of it. I find that the edge hold is tenacious but I haven’t skied the 105 on boiler plate. I have a 178 cm SG 88 also and it’s a better hard snow ski with its 88 mm waist width. I had the 105’s out at a ski area last week with 8” of cold new over groomed, so nice conditions. That day when I would really rail a carve they’d cut right through the pow and rip the buried corduroy but pop out easily to initiate the next turn. The 105 or really any of these Superguides are not what I’d call slarvy skis. The tails are turned up and you can slip them in tight terrain but there a big back seat on these babies and they can get you out of trouble if needed. I personally feel they ski almost any condition very well.
Oh yeah, I’m a light skier at 145 lbs., they’re not nervous or an autopilot ski but will do what you want them to as ong as you’re in the drivers seat.
Are these 2017-18 skis available in the US? Having a hard time locating them.
Backcountry.com has the 16/ 17 MY in both sizes, same ski different graphics.
I own both the 16/17 SG88 in a 178cm and the SG105 in a 175cm. Great skis very light, strong and good skis in most all conditions. The 88 is a little better hard snow ski and the 105 is a bit better in softer, deeper snow but they both cover a wide range.
How do these sit when compared with the Black Crows Corvus or Navis freebirds? And what did Scott do to trim the weight from these, was it similar to the Corvus where they reduced the thickness of the base and edges? Thanks all
Hi Nick,
I’ve not skied the Corvus or Navis freebirds, but the edges/base on the Superguide 105 are in line with most touring gear I’ve used — significantly thinner than most alpine gear. The Superguide 105 has a very traditional shape with almost no taper and very little rocker. It is also very stiff and light. This combination results in a ski that is not very forgiving of mistakes and rather unpredictable in variable snow. I have a hard time recommending this ski to anyone expect expert skiers looking for maximum edge hold on steep lines.
Best,
Sam
i just bought these in a 175 to replace a beat set of dynafit manaslu’s and the recomended mount of 12.5 back seems awfully far back? Anybody play with the mount, not a huge fan of so much out front and grown to like the mounts of the rest of my quiver brahma, patron, and sickdays (all factory) don’t want to mess up the ski but like some tail!
Hey Harry,
I wouldn’t worry about not having enough tail on this ski. It is very stiff and has almost zero tail rocker. I would stick to recommended. I haven’t played with the mount point, but my instinct says that moving the bindings up might be a bad idea.
Hope that helps,
Sam
Note: These will require a helicoil to mount the Shift bindings.
Thanks for the reply sam. I went on the line and it ski’s well there for me. It works as my back/side country ski it’s ok in chop, ok float Not a particularly fun ski but it really wants to rip for such a light ski. Btw Scott says 1600ish a piece I think, mine were 1490, go fig
skied on these for a week in Andermatt last winter, and loved them so much I bought a new pair from the rental shop (newer model). Have not been able to ski them this year yet but the week I Andermatt was revelatory…these guys ski everything…steep and icy, groomers, knee deep powder, spring slush, even bumps (slowly and carefully). I was smitten. If they turn out to live up to my expectations, they will replace both a new pair of Mantra M5s and a well used pair of G3 Findrs. Hard to find in the US. This may be evidence of how successful Scott has been in the EU market compared to here. In fact, the one I got is a discontinued model, and Scott are out to launch a new version called Freetour…similar specs, higher price. We’ll see if it is as popular here as their skis have been in Europe.
These are one hell of a ski. You have to work for it as another comment says, you can’t just switch off (well I can’t anyway!) but they are so agile and confidence-building. Really, really happy with them
Definitely interested to hear how this ski compared to the Rock’air. Currently looking for a mid-fat dedicated touring ski and both of these are available for about the same sort of price in the UK right now
Sam,
any input on the skis yet? Using some La Sportiva Nanos for powder touring, but they ski a bit to lightweight for my liking.
How is slarving on the Superguides? Thanks!
Are the holes/slots big enough for Voile straps to build a sled?
Hello,
any news regarding this interesting ski? I’m wondering if it’s a bit too nervous for a light skier due to its low weight paired with such a stout flex.
Simone
Hey guys, I own this ski (last years graphics) in a 175 cm. It’s a light ski for its width and powerful flex but it’s definitely not a nervous ski. On the contrary it’s on the damper side but still lively in how it pushes back as long as you’re on top of it. I find that the edge hold is tenacious but I haven’t skied the 105 on boiler plate. I have a 178 cm SG 88 also and it’s a better hard snow ski with its 88 mm waist width. I had the 105’s out at a ski area last week with 8” of cold new over groomed, so nice conditions. That day when I would really rail a carve they’d cut right through the pow and rip the buried corduroy but pop out easily to initiate the next turn. The 105 or really any of these Superguides are not what I’d call slarvy skis. The tails are turned up and you can slip them in tight terrain but there a big back seat on these babies and they can get you out of trouble if needed. I personally feel they ski almost any condition very well.
Oh yeah, I’m a light skier at 145 lbs., they’re not nervous or an autopilot ski but will do what you want them to as ong as you’re in the drivers seat.
Are these 2017-18 skis available in the US? Having a hard time locating them.
Backcountry.com has the 16/ 17 MY in both sizes, same ski different graphics.
I own both the 16/17 SG88 in a 178cm and the SG105 in a 175cm. Great skis very light, strong and good skis in most all conditions. The 88 is a little better hard snow ski and the 105 is a bit better in softer, deeper snow but they both cover a wide range.
How do these sit when compared with the Black Crows Corvus or Navis freebirds? And what did Scott do to trim the weight from these, was it similar to the Corvus where they reduced the thickness of the base and edges? Thanks all
Hi Nick,
I’ve not skied the Corvus or Navis freebirds, but the edges/base on the Superguide 105 are in line with most touring gear I’ve used — significantly thinner than most alpine gear. The Superguide 105 has a very traditional shape with almost no taper and very little rocker. It is also very stiff and light. This combination results in a ski that is not very forgiving of mistakes and rather unpredictable in variable snow. I have a hard time recommending this ski to anyone expect expert skiers looking for maximum edge hold on steep lines.
Best,
Sam
i just bought these in a 175 to replace a beat set of dynafit manaslu’s and the recomended mount of 12.5 back seems awfully far back? Anybody play with the mount, not a huge fan of so much out front and grown to like the mounts of the rest of my quiver brahma, patron, and sickdays (all factory) don’t want to mess up the ski but like some tail!
Hey Harry,
I wouldn’t worry about not having enough tail on this ski. It is very stiff and has almost zero tail rocker. I would stick to recommended. I haven’t played with the mount point, but my instinct says that moving the bindings up might be a bad idea.
Hope that helps,
Sam
Note: These will require a helicoil to mount the Shift bindings.
Thanks for the reply sam. I went on the line and it ski’s well there for me. It works as my back/side country ski it’s ok in chop, ok float Not a particularly fun ski but it really wants to rip for such a light ski. Btw Scott says 1600ish a piece I think, mine were 1490, go fig
skied on these for a week in Andermatt last winter, and loved them so much I bought a new pair from the rental shop (newer model). Have not been able to ski them this year yet but the week I Andermatt was revelatory…these guys ski everything…steep and icy, groomers, knee deep powder, spring slush, even bumps (slowly and carefully). I was smitten. If they turn out to live up to my expectations, they will replace both a new pair of Mantra M5s and a well used pair of G3 Findrs. Hard to find in the US. This may be evidence of how successful Scott has been in the EU market compared to here. In fact, the one I got is a discontinued model, and Scott are out to launch a new version called Freetour…similar specs, higher price. We’ll see if it is as popular here as their skis have been in Europe.
These are one hell of a ski. You have to work for it as another comment says, you can’t just switch off (well I can’t anyway!) but they are so agile and confidence-building. Really, really happy with them