16 comments on “2018-2019 ON3P Kartel 108”

    • Hey Jeff — good catch. The Kartel 116 does indeed have a bi-radius sidecut, and returns unchanged for 18/19. I’ve updated the post above.

  1. Do you know how the camber height and rocker length of these skis compare to the Kartel 96? Thanks in advance.

  2. Great review! Maybe too much of a different category, but how does it compare to J Skis The Metal? Playfulness? Charginess? Carving? Thanks!

    • That’s a tough question since we haven’t been able to A/B those skis in a while.

      That said, we think the Kartel 108 is damper, so we think it’d remain a bit more composed in rough conditions like crud. But on firm, smooth snow the Deathwish has significantly better edge hold. Another important thing to consider is the stance these two skis prefer. The Kartel 108 requires a pretty centered stance, while you can drive the shovels of the Deathwish a bit more. In terms of pop, we’ll have to ski these skis back to back to judge that (which we plan on doing this winter).

      Hope that helps, and as I said, we’re hoping to A/B these skis this season.

      — Luke

  3. Thanks so much for this site! I’m adding a set of twin tips to my quiver. I’d love some input to help me narrow down the list.

    I’m looking for a playful ski with a 100-109 waist for trees, small jumps, crud, bumps, and some powder. I ride in this type of snow but my wife rides groomers so I need the ability to ride the front side. A true all-mountain twin tip ski. I’m 5’10 190lbs and an advanced skier. We almost solely ski out west, CO, UT, WY, AZ, etc….

    I’ve been looking at ON3P Kartel 108, 4FRNT Devastator, Moment PB&J, J Metal, & others. What do you guys recommend in an all-mounrain twin tip in the 100-109 range? Thanks!

    • Of the skis in that category, the Kartel 108 is one of the best for soft snow, but it’s not great on really firm groomers (which is basically the only condition I didn’t love it on). So if you’re mostly skiing soft-ish snow, it’s an excellent option. If you’ll be spending a decent amount of time on groomers (particularly firm groomers), I think the J Skis Metal or Sego Big Horn 106 could be good options. The Metal is significantly more damp and stable than the Big Horn 106, but the Big Horn is a bit more playful and easier to flick around in the air and on the ground. For a middle ground between those two skis, the new Armada ARV 106 is an excellent all-around option.

      Hope that helps, and let me know about any other questions.

  4. Thank you Luke. That helps tremendously. How would you compare the J skis Metal to the Armada ARV 106, the PB&J, Icelantic Nomad 105, and the 4FRNT Devastator? Currently my top 5 but I’m open to change.

  5. Let me narrow that list down from my last question actually. I have made a short list to buy from. How would you compare the Kartel 108, PB&J, Armada ARV 106, and J Skis The Metal? I’m positive I will buy one of these but am looking for some more feedback and direct comparison on them. Thanks!

    • So the Metal will be the most damp and stable, but the Kartel isn’t far off in terms of stability. The ARV 106 is just below the Kartel in terms of stability, but again, it’s not a huge difference. Unfortunately, we haven’t been on the PB&J recently to compare it to the other skis, but we should be getting on it soon. It’s the lightest of the bunch, and I imagine it’d be the easiest to ski at lower speeds and the easiest to spin. So if you want max stability, go Metal. If you want similar stability but with better soft-snow performance (and slightly worse performance on ice), then the Kartel is a good call. The ARV 106 is the best all-arounder — it’s pretty stable, but also easy to spin and lighter than the Kartel and Metal.

      Hope that helps!

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