12 comments on “2020-2021 Parlor Skis Mountain Jay”
Wider 1st generation cochise?
Hmmmm … hadn’t thought of that, but that’s an intriguing thought.
Honestly, the thing I’m wildly curious about is that this ski is super flat. Really wishing Parlor had named it the Low Rider…
Ok, Hannes to attempt an answer to your question:
This is a little tricky because I was getting re-acquainted with the current Cochise this past June, and the Mountain Jay doesn’t really remind me of the current Cochise at all. So to Hannes’ question above about the 1st gen Cochise? Still, I don’t really think so. And I think the reason why is that the Cochise — whether 1st gen or current gen — really feels like a ski with metal; the Mountain Jay doesn’t. So it’s a bit tough to quantify or explain, but while the shovels of the Mountain Jay are wide and feel big, I don’t think I could drive them quite as hard at high speeds in variable terrain as I could the heavier, metal-having Cochise. It’s not that the Cochise is massively more stable, but it felt like I could fold up / flex the shovels of the Mountain Jay (at least, in Parlor’s “medium” flex pattern) more than I notice with the Cochise. And given that the Cochise isn’t *that* stiff of a ski, it strikes me that the difference I’m feeling is more the (a) overall heavier weight of the Cochise and (b) the metal.
I won’t continue to drone on about this any longer, so please let me know if I’m doing a bad job of explaining this.
Put a smidge of camber in that ski, and I might be in love!
The mount point appears to be further back than the norm these days. Maybe just the photo.
-11.2 cm is definitely in “traditional” territory, but with my time on the ski so far, I did not immediately wish I was forward. But I also want to get the ski in some softer snow, conditions in northern New Mexico might finally be just about to cooperate. Stay tuned — this is a solid ski, not some dedicated pow ski that’s too light & too twitchy to handle less-than-perfect conditions.
Greasier reincarnation of liberty variant 113?
I’ve got a couple pair of Parlor ski’s .. a set of 90 Cardinals… and a set of full on custom pow ski’s designed for tree’s .. super floaty and short radius turns….. I also have a couple sets of Line Influences and Stokli Storm riders….. after demoing the 186 Jay(east coast crap conditions, firm(ice) with a dusting) …. I decided I needed yet another set of Parlors … the Jay just rocks
I’ll be curious to hear whether your experience matches up with mine…
cochise comparison?
Hey, thanks for the reminder. See my reply to Hannes above.
Are you guys getting on the McFellon Pro this year? The profile looks similar to a Hoji but with more side cut and maybe a weight difference? These are very important things I need to know!!!!!
Great question / questions. We’re looking into getting on it as I type this. Stay tuned…
Wider 1st generation cochise?
Hmmmm … hadn’t thought of that, but that’s an intriguing thought.
Honestly, the thing I’m wildly curious about is that this ski is super flat. Really wishing Parlor had named it the Low Rider…
Ok, Hannes to attempt an answer to your question:
This is a little tricky because I was getting re-acquainted with the current Cochise this past June, and the Mountain Jay doesn’t really remind me of the current Cochise at all. So to Hannes’ question above about the 1st gen Cochise? Still, I don’t really think so. And I think the reason why is that the Cochise — whether 1st gen or current gen — really feels like a ski with metal; the Mountain Jay doesn’t. So it’s a bit tough to quantify or explain, but while the shovels of the Mountain Jay are wide and feel big, I don’t think I could drive them quite as hard at high speeds in variable terrain as I could the heavier, metal-having Cochise. It’s not that the Cochise is massively more stable, but it felt like I could fold up / flex the shovels of the Mountain Jay (at least, in Parlor’s “medium” flex pattern) more than I notice with the Cochise. And given that the Cochise isn’t *that* stiff of a ski, it strikes me that the difference I’m feeling is more the (a) overall heavier weight of the Cochise and (b) the metal.
I won’t continue to drone on about this any longer, so please let me know if I’m doing a bad job of explaining this.
Put a smidge of camber in that ski, and I might be in love!
The mount point appears to be further back than the norm these days. Maybe just the photo.
-11.2 cm is definitely in “traditional” territory, but with my time on the ski so far, I did not immediately wish I was forward. But I also want to get the ski in some softer snow, conditions in northern New Mexico might finally be just about to cooperate. Stay tuned — this is a solid ski, not some dedicated pow ski that’s too light & too twitchy to handle less-than-perfect conditions.
Greasier reincarnation of liberty variant 113?
I’ve got a couple pair of Parlor ski’s .. a set of 90 Cardinals… and a set of full on custom pow ski’s designed for tree’s .. super floaty and short radius turns….. I also have a couple sets of Line Influences and Stokli Storm riders….. after demoing the 186 Jay(east coast crap conditions, firm(ice) with a dusting) …. I decided I needed yet another set of Parlors … the Jay just rocks
I’ll be curious to hear whether your experience matches up with mine…
cochise comparison?
Hey, thanks for the reminder. See my reply to Hannes above.
Are you guys getting on the McFellon Pro this year? The profile looks similar to a Hoji but with more side cut and maybe a weight difference? These are very important things I need to know!!!!!
Great question / questions. We’re looking into getting on it as I type this. Stay tuned…