Ski: 2012-2013 MOMENT Night Train, 186cm
Dimensions (mm): 140-123-135
Turn Radius: 27.5 meters
Actual Tip to Tail Length (straight tape pull): 184.2cm
Weight Per Ski: 2296 grams / 5.06 lbs.
Mount Location: Factory Recommended
Boots / Bindings: Lange RX 130 / Marker Jester (DIN 10)
Test Location: Taos, Wolf Creek, Silverton
Days Skied: 4
(Editor’s Note: Our review was conducted on the 11/12 Night Train, which is unchanged for 12/13, except for the graphics.)
Intro / Caveat / Disclaimer:
In response to our Jaguar Shark review, we’ve received a lot of questions about the MOMENT Night Train, especially how the Night Train compares to the Bibby Pro and the new Jaguar Shark. (Thanks to everyone who wrote with questions and comments. We appreciate the feedback.)
I’ve done a handful of days on the Night Train this past season, including a big day at Wolf Creek and a really big day at Silverton, but I’ve wanted to ski the Night Train more before really weighing in on it.
Seems, though, that it might be helpful to go ahead and describe my experience so far on the NTs, and say a bit about the Night Train in relation to the Bibby Pro and the new Jaguar Shark.
So yeah, while this is going to be 10 (or 20) times longer than some other places’ typical reviews, please consider this just an initial review, and I’ll update when the snow starts to get deep at Alta or Jackson Hole or Taos.
End of Intro / Caveat / Disclaimer.
MOMENT Night Train vs. MOMENT Bibby Pro:
First: The 11/12 Night Train is unchanged from 10/11 (besides the graphics) for the 178cm and 186cm lengths. For 11/12, the 168cm model is now narrower.
186cm Night Train: 140-123-135mm, 27.5 meter radius, 1540mm running length.
184cm Bibby Pro: 143-116-134mm, 24.5 meter radius, 1500mm running length.
190cm Bibby Pro: 143-118-134mm, 26.5 meter radius, 1560mm running length.
But the stats don’t tell the story here.
The Night Train feels like a very different ski than the Bibby Pro, so much so, that if you are a big Night Train fan, I have trouble thinking that you’d LOVE the Bibby, and if you really dig the Bibby, I doubt you’ll be all that down with the NT. People I know tend to be huge fans of one or the other, but I don’t know many people who claim to be in love with both.
The Bibby is a fairly burly ski, very stable, yet still remarkably playful. The Night Train feels lighter, is more center mounted, has a super balanced swing weight, and wants to spin and air. You can drive the shovels of the Bibby; you’re better off staying more centered on the NT. The Bibby charges, the NT, not nearly as much.
That’s not to say that there aren’t people who absolutely rip on the Night Train, but in my opinion, that’s an impressive feat on their part, or maybe they just weigh a lot less than I do (185 lbs.).
In a similar vein, I think it’s impressive when I see people maching around—especially in hard chop—on S7s or Bent Chetlers. If you can, I salute you, but just because you can, doesn’t mean that the ski ought to get a ton of the credit; I’d give the Oscar to the skier in such cases, not the ski.
Regarding the Night Train: if you ain’t jibbin’, get the Bibby. Both the Night Train and the Bibby Pro are fantastic switch, but the Bibby (IMO) is better in crud and chop, thanks to its stiffer shovels.
In deep untracked, both the Night Train and the Bibby are super fun, but I want to ski them back to back to be more specific about their deep performance.
And just to be clear, I’m not knocking the Night Train at all; there’s a reason why a ton of people love it. But I think you’re sort of either in the Night Train camp or the Bibby camp, and it’s good to get clear on the differences, especially since you hear people gushing about both.
Alright, on to the Night Train / Jaguar Shark comparison.