JE: What about weight?
You and I have never really discussed this before. The more stuff I ski, the more I feel that, at least for me, if a ski weighs less than 2000 grams per ski, it almost always feels too light to truly excel in bumped up, firm conditions at speed. And for this specific application (skiing at speed, in bumped-up, firm snow), a number of my favorite skis fall into the 2200 – 2400 gram range—they don’t feel too heavy to lose all quickness, but they’re heavy enough to blow stuff up.
Down in New Zealand, Paul Forward called the 194 4FRNT Devastator the best crud ski he’s ever used, and that ski weighs nearly 2600 grams per ski.
You’ve called the Scott Punisher the best chop / crud ski you’ve ever used, and those come in right around 2200 grams per ski.
You’re also lighter than me (I’m ~185 lbs., Garrett is ~160 lbs.), but do you have specific thoughts about weight? Did the XXLs feel sluggish to you? What ski has felt best to you regarding weight?
GA: Honestly, weight isn’t something that I’ve paid too much attention to, but generally speaking, I prefer skis that aren’t too light since they’re more prone to ricochet and have more difficulty transitioning between different snow types. A heavier ski will generally transition more effectively, but the downside is that swing weight becomes a limitation, particularly with tricks off jumps and tighter jump turns.
The incorporation of a solid wood core seems to provide a really nice combination of natural dampening abilitity and weight. When metal reinforcement becomes part of the design, then weight can become an issue.
JE: Cool. We’ll leave it at that for now.
But last week, Garrett and I got on the phone with Pete Wagner, and had a really interesting conversation with him about ski design in general, and Garrett’s ski in particular. Pete walked Garrett and me through every single step of the ski’s construction and design, and we’ll be reporting back on that soon.
‘Till then, you can check out Wagner’s Skier DNA questionnaire at www.wagnerskis.com/dna