Which ski brand is most similar to Transition? Guerrilla Gravity? Specialized? Which bike company is most like K2? ON3P? Moment? We answer all of these questions and more in Part 2 of Bikes vs. Skis. Check it out, and let us know your answers in the comments section.
TOPICS & TIMES:
- Transition (2:04)
- Propain (5:35)
- Guerilla Gravity (7:08)
- Commencal (11:22)
- Q: Cool Kid Co.s: Does size matter? (15:03)
- Rossignol (20:31)
- Trek (23:28)
- Head Skis (24:49)
- Giant (28:21)
- Santa Cruz (29:14)
- Salomon (32:41)
- K2 Skis (32:13)
- YT Bikes (37:52)
- Canyon (41:10)
- Volkl Skis (43:49)
- Ibis (45:14)
- Yeti (50:07)
- Coalition Snow (53:54)
- Evil (56:17)
- Privateer Bikes (59:00)
- Banshee (1:00:46)
- Revel (1:02:04)
- Which bike company will see the most growth in the next 5 years? (1:04:28)
- Pole Bikes (1:07:32)
- Starling (1:11:14)
- Canfield (1:13:18)
- Forbidden (1:17:10)
- Which industry is currently weirder? (1:23:51)
- The role of team athletes (1:29:12)
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Analogous athletes are another good point of similarity here. In support of Atomic = Trek: Chris Benchetler = Brandon Semenuk.
Ohhhhh , that may be a really cool episode! “Bike athletes vs ski/snowboard athletes”.
Canyon and Head. Canyon has incredible racing pedigree right now in road racing, cyclocross, and cross-country mountain bike racing. MVP is currently wearing the yellow jersey in TdF and a favorite for MTB gold in the Olympics. Head has a lot of racing athletes, and Canyon has some of the highest volume in the world when considering road, cyclocross, and commuting bikes.
What about WNDR and Guerrilla Gravity?
Yeti/DPS/Kastle should just be called “Cool Kids’ Dad’s” category.
Feel like Revel and Season makes the most sense. Aspirational brand for cool kids that will inevitably will fall into the DPS/Yeti/Kastle category. Also, could see Revel & any custom ski, where it’s what dads show off on the Front Range.
Canyon = Head is pretty good, I’m on board with that.
WNDR and GG both have their materials angles, but I feel like they’re at somewhat different places in their development, and match up less well in terms of their marketing and overall company vibe.
Doesn’t Scott Make bikes and Skis and cover a big range in both? It’d be good to include it!
We did. Give the episode a listen.
We’ll see about it this year, but I feel Scott Bikes matches better to Fischer Skis. They cover pretty much all segments of their sports with athletes at the high end of racing and freestyle for both.
Scott skis is a little too limited to all mountain, backcountry, & skimo skis to really match with their bikes. I’d consider Scott Skis to match closer to Niner or maybe Salsa.
Also Altai Skis = Surly
I’d say Canyon = Fischer.
German/Austrian; MTB/off-piste products but a deep race focus as well; similar clean, minimal industrial design language; independently owned (not part of a big conglomerate). Both are good value for money in the US (where Fischer is often on sale).
Imperfect in that Fischer is much older, not consumer-direct and also goes beyond skis.
I’d love to see a review of commencal’s skis, they look pretty cool and modern. Probably a pain in the ass to get a sample pair tho
Previously, Commencal skis were rebranded Faction skis. But now they’re offering some new models, and we are planning to get on them this coming season.
Here is a more specific question: which bike = Nordica Enforcer 100? A bike that is both stable and forgiving and can be recommended for both beginners and experts?
In a past episode of Bikes vs. Skis, I believe I’ve nominated the Santa Cruz Hightower = Enforcer 100. (Keeping in mind that I’m speaking about the previous iteration of the Enforcer 100, not the current model.)
Hightower feels quite plush and very forgiving. Can be pushed hard, but does mellow well, too.
Curious to see what others think.