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Jeremy Jones was in town last week, so in addition to getting out on snow together, we sat down in Blister HQ in Elevation Hotel to talk about gear reviews; the biggest gear mistakes riders make; full-camber vs. no-camber boards; soft vs. hard boots (including Shane McConkey’s tinkering on that front); and more.
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TOPICS & TIMES:
Riding CBMR, CBMR Freeride Comp (3:35)
Jonathan Boarding, Jeremy Getting on Skis (6:00)
Gear Reviews / Gear Reviewing (11:56)
Materials, Weight, & Stiffness (25:15)
Full-Camber vs No-Camber Boards (33:17)
Boards for Beginners (35:47)
Soft vs Hard Boots (42:06)
Product Design at Jones (53:34)
ReUptech (55:38)
Blister Cinematic (58:35)
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Wow, this Jeremy dude sure makes the whole knuckle-dragging thing sound appealing.
Seriously what he said about fluidity and angle movement really captured something that’s always made me jealous. As a skier if I want to make a small edge angle “trim adjustment” I have to change knee angulation, hip angulation, or whole-body lean, and the amount of adjustment I can make from my knees is physiologically limited. IMO high-level soft-boot snowboarders have a unique fluidity because they can do that with small ankle movements.
As someone who has used both hardboots and soft boots splitboarding for a few years, I do wonder if Jeremy has ridden the newest crop of splitboard specific hardboots (Phantom or Key Equipment). I’ve ridden soft boots (Burton Ion or Driver X for example) that are stiffer and less flexible than these (especially the Key Equipment boots) and the ride difference is really not as noticeable as one might expect. I do still prefer my soft boots for low angle powder runs and tight trees but anything more open or higher speed they honestly feel about the same and the touring is so much better with the hardboots.
He says he has a setup and based on his comments – tldr no damping and no ankle flex, they probably are modern iterations because those are the two things I agree are still not met by any current hardboot. Even with significant mods (I have almost no cuff left in my backlands and slots cut in the lower boot along the pivot in my TLT6’s) you are not getting the flex laterally actually at the ankle, it comes from higher up in the cuff. It’s all style dependent but I dip my back knee pretty hard and its noticeable when I switch between the boots. I’ve heard the disruptive’s have better damping than the backlands but at the current moment they are all based on a production ski boot (disruptives=movement ski boots) with relatively no space in the boot lower for any foam dampening bc skiers dont want it/need it I guess. Compared to a softboot with like a half inch of EVA foam, its pretty easy to rattle your fillings out with a hardboot. But the touring is soo much better and crampons much less sketchy with hardboots.
I do agree about the damping difference it is very noticeable. I guess in my mind the ride is different, yes, but not necessarily bad. Again I own both and enjoy using both for different scenarios.