2019-2020 Line Vision 108

Ski: 2019-2020 Line Vision 108, 183 cm

Available Lengths: 175, 183, 189 cm

Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length: 181.5 cm

Stated Weight per Ski: 1605 grams

Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 1605 & 1630 grams

Stated Dimensions: 142-108-128 mm

Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 140.1-107.5-126.8 mm

Stated Sidecut Radius (183 cm): 19.5 meters

Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 69 mm / 41 mm

Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: ~3 mm

Core: Paulownia/Maple + Carbon, Aramid, & Fiberglass Laminate

Base: 1.3 mm Sintered

Factory Recommended Mount Point: -5.95 cm from center; 84.8 cm from tail

Luke Koppa reviews the Line Vision 108 for Blister
Line Vision 108
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Review Navigation:  Specs //  First Look //  Bottom Line //  Rocker Pics

Intro

Next year Line is introducing two new skis, the Vision 98 and Vision 108, that they’re labeling as “freeride” skis. But these skis are very, very light. In fact, they’re the lightest men’s skis in Line’s collection, and they’re even lighter than the old (and very good) Line Sick Day Tourist, which used to be Line’s dedicated touring ski.

But there’s a lot more going on with these new skis than just their low weight, which is why we were so psyched about them at Outdoor Retailer last week. You can hear Sam Shaheen and I blab about them on our GEAR:30 podcast, and also find a bit more info about them in our Blister Outdoor Retailer Snow Show Awards.

But today, we’re taking a closer look at the widest ski in the series, the Vision 108, because its design has some of us itching to get on it.

What Line says about the Vision 108

“Introducing the ski you wish you had yesterday. The one freeride ski that can slap down pillow stacks one day and explore far out zones the next. Forged out of THC Construction, the Vision 108 reimagines what’s possible for lightweight freeride skis. Stable at speeds, light in the air, and easy to smear.”

It’s interesting that Line doesn’t explicitly mention touring in this description, given how much the Vision 108 weighs (see below). Instead, they’re emphasizing the Vision 108’s stability, playfulness, and ability to not simply go uphill well, but ski hard on the way down.

Oh, and that mention of “THC Construction” warrants a good bit of explanation, so let’s talk about it:

Line’s “THC” Construction

Here’s what Line says about the Vision’s new construction:

“This is not just an excuse to make weird pot references; this is some serious tech. By combining three different laminates – aramid, carbon, and fiberglass – that resonate at different frequencies, we’ve created a hyper dampening construction that allows us to shave weight. No more twitchy, pingy carbon feel; just feel good, smooth skiing in a lightweight package. Skiing is believing, and we’re about it”

Well, I’ll admit I have a hard time believing that this isn’t an excuse to make weed references, but I guess I’ll take Line’s word for it. Beyond the name, the Vision’s laminate construction sure sounds interesting.

I’m one of many people who has been a bit disappointed by lightweight touring skis that are packed full of carbon in order to make them stiff, but in turn, end up feeling very harsh on firm / rough snow. So if Line has managed to make a very light ski without that “pingy” feeling, I’d be quite happy.

Shape / Rocker Profile

While the Vision 108’s construction is different from most other skis on the market, its shape is more traditional. It has a bit of taper in the tips, and a bit more taper in the tails. But the Vision 108 doesn’t have nearly as much tip taper as the K2 Wayback 106 or Black Diamond Helio 105 Carbon, and the Vision 108’s tail taper is still on the moderate side.

Overall, the Vision 108’s shape looks very similar to a “Best Of” winner, the Line Sick Day 104. The Vision 108 has slightly less tapered tips, and maybe a bit more taper in the tails. But overall, the two skis look very similar.

The Vision 108’s rocker profile also looks pretty similar to the Sick Day 104’s, with the Vision 108 having a deeper tip rocker line and slightly higher tail splay. Overall, the Vision 108’s tip rocker line is quite deep compared to many other 108mm-wide skis, and its tail splay is higher than almost all the other skis we’ve tested that come in at similarly low weights.

While the Vision 108’s tail isn’t a true twin, its rocker profile still looks like it’d encourage a more playful skiing style. As someone who likes to do some longer tours but who also likes to slash and jump around in the backcountry, I’m very psyched on the shape and rocker profile of the Vision 108. And that excitement grew when I measured this next spec:

Mount Point

The recommended mount point on our pair of the 183 cm Vision 108 came in just a hair under -6 cm from center. That’s much more forward than almost all the other touring skis we’ve used, and significantly more forward than the recommended mount points on the Sick Day 104 (-10.15 cm) and Sick Day Tourist 102 (-10.6 cm).

But the Vision 108’s recommended mount point isn’t crazy far forward, and we’ve been on a lot of skis with mount points around -6 cm that can be skied with both a centered, balanced stance and a more forward, driving one. So I’m personally very eager to see how the Vision 108 responds to different stances. And given its low weight and more progressive mount point, I imagine that the Vision 108 is going to feel super light in the air.

Flex Pattern

Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Vision 108:

Tips: 5.5-6
Shovels: 6.5-7
In Front of Toe Piece: 7-9
Underfoot: 9.5
Behind the Heel Piece: 9-8
Tails: 7-7.5

The Vision 108’s flex pattern is on the softer side, though the middle of the ski is still pretty strong. The Vision 108’s flex pattern is extremely similar to the Sick Day 104’s flex pattern, with the Vision 108 being a tiny bit softer in the tips, and a touch softer in the tails.

Compared to the 19/20 Line Sir Francis Bacon (First Look coming soon), the Vision 108’s flex pattern feels very similar, with the SFB’s tips and tails being a bit stiffer than the Vision 108’s.

I love the flex pattern of the Sick Day 104, so I’m glad to see that the Vision 108 shares a lot of similarity in this regard. I (and many other Blister reviewers) tend to prefer light skis that don’t have super stiff flex patterns, as they seem to result in a slightly less harsh ride than very light skis with super stiff flex patterns. So I’m eager to see if the Vision 108’s more forgiving flex pattern (and maybe its THC construction) can result in a more damp ride compared to similarly light skis.

Weight

The 183 cm Vision 108 comes in at just over 1600 grams, which is very light. It’s not quite as light as more traditional touring skis like the K2 Wayback 106, G3 FINDr 102, and Black Diamond Helio 105 Carbon, but the Vision 108 is still coming in much lighter than nearly every other ~108mm-wide ski we’ve reviewed.

For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try and keep things apples-to-apples.

1446 & 1447 Line Vision 98, 179 cm (19/20)
1476 & 1490 K2 Wayback 106, 179 cm (18/19–19/20)
1477 & 1482 G3 FINDr 102, 184 cm (17/18–18/19)
1547 & 1551 Black Diamond Helio 105 Carbon, 185 cm (17/18)
1562 & 1566 Scott Superguide 105, 183 cm (17/18–18/19)
1605 & 1630 Line Vision 108, 183 cm (19/20)
1606 & 1641 Blizzard Zero G 105, 188 cm (19/20)
1642 & 1651 Renoun Citadel 106, 185 cm, (18/19)
1706 & 1715 Volkl BMT 109, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
1720 & 1747 Line Sick Day Tourist, 186 cm (16/17)
1733 & 1735 Blizzard Zero G 108, 185 cm (17/18–18/19)
1745 & 1747 4FRNT Raven, 184 cm (16/17–18/19)
1755 & 1792 Line Sick Day 104, 179 cm (17/18,–19/20)
1814 & 1845 Elan Ripstick 106, 181 cm (17/18–19/20)
1825 & 1904 Black Crows Corvus Freebird, 183.3 cm (17/18–19/20)
1843 & 1847 Head Kore 105, 189 cm (17/18)
1848 & 1903 Line Sick Day 104, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
1849 & 1922 Elan Ripstick 106, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
1898 & 1893 Armada Tracer 108, 180 cm (18/19)
1913 & 1943 Sego Condor Ti, 187 cm (18/19)
1923 & 1956 DPS Alchemist Wailer 106, 189 cm (17/18–18/19)
1941 & 1965 Fischer Ranger 108 Ti, 182 cm (17/18–18/19)
1950 & 1977 Blizzard Rustler 10, 188 cm (17/18–18/19)
1970 & 1979 Atomic Backland FR 109, 189 cm (17/18)
1980 & 2016 Liberty Origin 106, 187 cm (17/18–18/19)
1996 & 2012 Dynastar Legend X106, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
2022 & 2047 Faction Dictator 3.0, 186 cm (17/18–18/19)
2026 & 2056 Black Diamond Boundary Pro 107, 184 cm (17/18–19/20)
2030 & 2039 Rossignol Soul 7 HD, 188 cm (17/18, 18/19)
2036 & 2064 Salomon QST 106, 188 cm (18/19)

Some Questions / Things We’re Curious about)

(1) Line keeps calling the Vision 108 a “freeride” ski, rather than a touring ski. So just how stable will it feel, and could it be suitable as a 50/50 or even dedicated resort ski?

(2) The Vision 108 has pretty deep rocker lines, fairly high tail splay, pretty soft tips and tails, and a progressive mount point. So could it finally be the lightweight, playful ski that less directional skiers like myself have been waiting for?

(3) Speaking of mount points, how well will the Vision 108 respond to both forward and more centered skiing stances?

(4) The Vision 108 shares a lot in common with one of our favorite skis, the Sick Day 104. So where will the two skis differ the most?

Bottom Line (For Now)

The Line Vision 108’s design contains a combination of traits that we rarely see: a really low weight, moderate flex pattern, deep rocker lines, fairly high tail splay, and a progressive mount point. I and a few other Blister reviewers like Cy Whitling have been looking (read: begging) for that combination for some time, so we’re extremely eager to get the ski on snow. Stay tuned for updates.

Flash Review

Blister Members can now check out our Flash Review of the Vision 108 for our initial impressions. Become a Blister member now to check out this and all of our Flash Reviews, plus get exclusive deals and discounts on skis, and personalized gear recommendations from us.

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5 comments on “2019-2020 Line Vision 108”

  1. They look so great on both paper and photos. Really excited to read a full review on them. The only thing that would make me think twice is the tail(I don’t like tapered tails in pow, and this one looks pretty tapered…), everything else sounds just too good.

  2. Looking forward to the updates on the 108, but I also hope that you will be looking at the 98 Vison. There are a lot of days in the backcountry where a narrower, lighter, but still playful ski geared toward soft snow sounds very appealing.

    • Yep — we have the 179 cm Vision 98 in hand and will be posting a First Look of that ski soon (you can check out its measured weight in the Weight section above).

  3. Why do you give 2 weights? Claimed and measured? If so maybe you need to calibrate your scale? Snapped my sick day tourists skiing park at seymour (def not what they were built for) and looking at these for replacing my lightweight mega day ski.

    • As we note in the “Specs” section at the top, the two weights we list for every ski represent the weight of each individual ski in a pair. It’s actually pretty rare for both skis in a pair to come in at the exact same weight. And it’s also very rare for a ski to come in at the exact weight that is claimed by the manufacturer (though Line’s stated weight for the 183 cm Vision 108 is pretty spot-on based on our measured weights). Much of this has to do with how skis are manufactured and the slight variances that can occur during production.

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