2021-2022 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free

Ski: 2021-2022 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, 186 cm

Available Lengths: 172, 179, 186, 191 cm

Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length: 184.5 cm

Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2233 & 2255 grams

Stated Dimensions: 135-104-124 mm

Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 136.4-103.9-126.6 mm

Stated Sidecut Radius (186 cm): 18.5 meters

Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 66.5 mm / 44 mm

Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: ~4 mm

Core: Poplar/Beech/Balsa + Titanal (2 layers) + Carbon & Fiberglass Laminate

Factory Recommended Mount Point: -8.85 cm from center; 83.4 cm from tail

Boots / Bindings: Nordica Strider 120; Head Raptor 140 RS; Dalbello Lupo SP I.D. / Tyrolia AAAttaack2 13 AT

Test Location: Crested Butte, CO

Days Skied: ~15

[Note: Our review was conducted on the 19/20 Enforcer 104 Free, which was not changed for 20/21 or 21/22, apart from graphics.]

Luke Koppa reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free for Blister
Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, 19/20 Graphic
Review Navigation:  Specs //  First Look //  Full Review //  Bottom Line //  Rocker Pics

Intro

In case you haven’t heard, we’re big fans of Nordica’s Enforcer and Santa Ana series. And personally, I’m a massive fan of the Enforcer 110 — it combines the damp and stable, yet forgiving feel of the Enforcer 100 with a more playful shape and rocker profile, which perfectly suits my skiing style.

But while the Enforcer 110 is very versatile and carves incredibly well for its size, it is still a bit wide for firm-snow days. So, back on our GEAR:30 podcast a few months ago, I mentioned how happy I’d be if Nordica took the rocker profile and construction of the Enforcer 110 and made it into a slightly narrower ski.

Well, apparently they heard me. Or more realistically, they had a similar idea last year when they were designing their 2019-2020 line, because for next season, they’re releasing the Enforcer 104 Free — a ski that looks, feels, and seems like a narrower Enforcer 110. And you could say that I’m just a little bit excited about it.

But before we get to my personal ramblings about this ski, let’s talk about the whole 19/20 Enforcer and Santa Ana lineup.

2019-2020 Nordica Enforcer and Santa Ana Skis

Beyond the addition of the Enforcer 104 Free, Nordica is also adding an Enforcer 88 and Santa Ana 88. The 88’s are based on the Enforcer 93 and Santa Ana 93, both of which have dual-metal-laminate constructions and pretty flat tails. We have both the Enforcer 88 and Santa Ana 88 in hand, and will be posting more about them very soon.

To complement the narrower, flatter-tailed Enforcer 100, 93, and 88, Nordica has decided to switch up the naming scheme for their wider Enforcer skis, all of which have more twinned / rockered tails than the Enforcer 100, 93 and 88. The current Enforcer 110 and Enforcer Pro will be called the Enforcer 110 Free and Enforcer 115 Free, respectively. And then the brand-new Enforcer 104 Free will fill the narrower end of the “Free” lineup.

The Enforcer 88 and 104 Free share the same Poplar/Beech/Balsa wood cores and 2-layer titanal construction of the other Enforcers. But the new 88 and Enforcer 104 Free’s wood cores extend a bit further in the skis, reducing the amount of ABS used in the tip and tail spacers. This is intended to reduce the swing weights of the new skis.

None of the current Enforcer or Santa Ana skis are getting changed apart from graphics and names, which we are very happy about. They’re already really good, so thank you, Nordica, for not messing them up.

But while we encourage manufacturers to not change something that’s already good, we’re fully on board with them taking an already good ski and using it to design another model in the line. So let’s talk about the Enforcer 104 Free.

Shape / Rocker Profile

The Enforcer 104 Free looks really similar to the Enforcer 110. The Enforcer 104 Free has a very similar shape, with a bit of early taper at the tips and tails, but its tips and tails don’t taper to much of a point like skis like the Dynastar Legend X106.

The Enforcer 104 Free’s rocker profile is very similar to the Enforcer 110, with the Enforcer 104 Free having just slightly shallower rocker lines and slightly lower tip and tail splay. But the differences between the two skis are subtle, which I’m psyched about. The Enforcer 104 Free still has a pretty deep tip rocker line compared to most skis in its class, and it has a nearly twinned tail with a pretty deep tail rocker line.

Flex Pattern

Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Enforcer 104 Free:

Tips: 7
Shovels: 7-8
In Front of Toe Piece: 8-9
Underfoot: 9.5
Behind the Heel Piece: 9-8.5
Tails: 8.5

Surprise! The Enforcer 104 Free’s flex pattern is very similar to the Enforcer 110’s. The Enforcer 104 Free’s tips are a touch stiffer, as are its tails. But the difference is subtle. Both skis have tips and shovels that are fairly easy to bend, but they have pretty stout midsections and fairly strong tails.

Compared to the Enforcer 100, the Enforcer 104 Free’s tips and tails are noticeably stiffer, with the tails being more noticeably stiffer than the tips.

One ski we’re very anxious to A/B against the Enforcer 104 Free is the Fischer Ranger 102 FR — another ski with a strong flex pattern and a slightly more playful-looking rocker profile. Compared the Ranger 102 FR, the Enforcer 104 Free’s shovels are a bit softer, and it’s tails are more noticeably softer.

Weight

The Enforcer 104 Free is not a particularly light ski. In fact, our pair of the 186 cm Enforcer 104 Free is coming in a little bit heavier than our pair of the 185 cm Enforcer 110.

And while the difference isn’t big, I’d much rather have the narrower, more firm-snow-oriented Enforcer 104 Free be a bit heavier than the more soft-snow-oriented Enforcer 110. Because I tend to use a ~104mm-underfoot ski in both soft and not-at-all-soft conditions, and a bit of heft can make a ski feel more composed and stable when conditions aren’t ideal.

For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try and keep things apples-to-apples.

1807 & 1840 Atomic Bent Chetler 100, 188 cm (18/19-19/20)
1848 & 1903 Line Sick Day 104, 186 cm (17/18-19/20)
1894 & 1980 Black Crows Daemon, 183.6 cm (17/18-19/20)
1998 & 2044 4FRNT MSP 99, 181 cm (17/18-18/19)
1923 & 1956 DPS Alchemist Wailer 106, 189 cm (17/18-18/19)
1950 & 1977 Blizzard Rustler 10, 188 cm (17/18-18/19)
1996 & 2012 Dynastar Legend X106, 188 cm (17/18-19/20)
2007 & 2029 Armada Invictus 99 Ti, 187 cm (18/19-19/20)
2013 & 2013 Moment Commander 108, 188 cm (18/19)
2022 & 2047 Faction Dictator 3.0, 186 cm (17/18-18/19)
2026 & 2056 Black Diamond Boundary Pro 107, 184 cm (17/18-19/20)
2030 & 2039 Rossignol Soul 7 HD, 188 cm (17/18-19/20)
2036 & 2064 Salomon QST 106, 188 cm (18/19)
2049 & 2065 Volkl Mantra M5, 177 cm (18/19-19/20)
2046 & 2120 Black Crows Corvus, 188 cm (18/19-19/20)
2050 & 2080 ON3P Wrenegade 96, 184 cm (18/19)
2053 & 2057 Atomic Vantage 97 Ti, 188 cm (18/19-19/20)
2101 & 2104 Fischer Ranger 102 FR, 184 cm (18/19-19/20)
2114 & 2133 Nordica Enforcer 93, 185 cm (16/17-19/20)
2115 & 2149 J Skis Masterblaster, 181 cm (16/17-18/19)
2124 & 2137 Blizzard Bonafide, 180 cm (17/18-19/20)
2131 & 2189 Nordica Enforcer 100, 185 cm (15/16-19/20)
2165 & 2211 K2 Mindbender 108Ti, 186 cm (19/20)
2182 & 2218 Nordica Enforcer 110, 185 cm (17/18-19/20)
2233 & 2255 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, 186 cm (19/20)
2250 & 2307 Argent Badger, 184 cm (19/20)
2283 & 2290 ON3P Wrenegade 108, 189 cm (18/19)
2311 & 2342 K2 Mindbender 99Ti, 184 cm (19/20)
2318 & 2341 J Skis The Metal, 186 cm (16/17-18/19)
2344 & 2367 J Skis Masterblaster, 187 cm (16/17-18/19)
2376 & 2393 Blizzard Cochise, 185 cm (15/16-19/20)

Some Questions / Things We’re Curious about

(1) The Enforcer 104 Free and Enforcer 110 are very similar. So where will they differ the most on snow, and who should pick one over the other?

(2) Like the Enforcer 110, the Enforcer 104 Free has a metal-laminate construction but combines that with pretty deep rocker lines and a nearly twinned tail. So how playful and / or stable will it feel?

(3) How much better will the Enforcer 104 Free be on firm snow compared to the Enforcer 110? And how much worse will the Enforcer 104 Free be in deep snow?

(4) How will the Enforcer 104 Free compare to the quite stable, but also fairly playful Fischer Ranger 102 FR?

Bottom Line (For Now)

I’m going to shut up now, because I really just want to get these skis mounted and on snow. But the summary of this First Look is that it seems as though Nordica recognized that they’ve been doing something right with their Enforcer series, and figured they should add another — and potentially very versatile — ski to the range. I’m extremely excited to ski the new Enforcer 104 Free, so stay tuned for updates.

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FULL REVIEW

The Nordica Enforcer 104 Free is one of the newest additions to the venerable Enforcer lineup, and upon seeing it, it looked like it could be exactly what I’ve been looking for — a narrower Enforcer 110 that retained that skis more playful feel vs. the flatter-tailed Enforcer 100 and Enforcer 93.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Jonathan Ellsworth on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO.

Well, Jonathan Ellsworth, Sam Shaheen, and I have now each spent time on the new Enforcer 104 Free, and I think Nordica has created another winner with this ski.

Powder

Luke Koppa (5’8”, 155 lbs): The Enforcer 104 Free isn’t a dedicated pow ski, but I’ve still had a lot of fun on it in snow up to ~12” deep. Its floats pretty well for how wide it is, its rockered tails are easier to pivot than most flat-tailed skis, and I haven’t experienced any unexpected tip dive. Like most ~105mm-underfoot skis, I wouldn’t pick the Enforcer 104 Free as the widest ski in my quiver if I lived in a high-snow area, but for lower-snow areas, I think it could definitely serve as a solid pow ski.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Sam Shaheen on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO.

That said, given how well this ski performs across a very broad range of conditions and terrain, I think its performance in pow is very good for its width, and makes it a strong contender in the 1-ski-quiver category.

Jonathan Ellsworth (5’10”, ~175 lbs.); Luke has spent more time in deep snow than have on the Enforcer 104, but I don’t disagree with his statements. That said, I also want to underscore that I don’t regard this as a pow ski (and I’m confident that Luke would agree with me). I.e., some skis work better than their direct competitors in deep snow. I think the Enforcer 104 is fine in 12” of pow, but I wouldn’t call it surprisingly good in pow for its width — in my book, this is still very much an “all-mountain” ski … and a good one.

Soft Chop

Luke: While it doesn’t matter too much in soft, untracked, forgiving powder, the Enforcer 104 Free’s heavy weight and stronger flex pattern make a big difference in soft, choppy snow. As long as the chop isn’t super deep (<12”), the Enforcer 104 Free does a great job of blasting through soft patches of snow at speed. If the snow hadn’t been too skied out (i.e., there were lots of tracks, but the snow hadn’t yet settled into dense clumps), I could basically ski as fast as I wanted to on the Enforcer 104 Free.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Jonathan Ellsworth on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO.

There are certainly skis with higher speed limits when the snow gets rough, but the Enforcer 104 Free feels strong, smooth, and stable in soft snow. And the thing that makes this ski stand out is that it combines that strong, stable feel with a more playful and forgiving nature — if I didn’t want to rage down the mountain on the Enforcer 104 Free, I didn’t have to. I could just as easily slide it slowly as I could make big, fast, carved turns down wide-open fields of chop.

Jonathan: Yeah, okay. I don’t really have any nits to pick with that description.

Crud

Luke: I just mentioned that there are other skis that are more stable than the Enforcer 104 Free, and that’s most noticeable in firm, inconsistent, cruddy conditions. The Enforcer 104 Free definitely still falls on the “more stable” end of the spectrum, and I think it feels more composed at speed in crud vs. the Enforcer 110. But if maximum stability is your top priority, you’d probably be better off with a ski in the “All-Mountain Chargers” section of our Winter Buyer’s Guide. But most of those skis are also going to be more demanding and punishing than the Enforcer 104 Free, which is why I’m a big fan of this ski.

I like to ski fast, but I also make mistakes. So I’d rather have something that’s pretty stable, but that’s not going to demand that I’m 100% on my game 100% of the time. For me, the Enforcer 104 Free accomplishes that really well. It maintains the damp, smooth feel of all of the other Enforcer skis, and also those skis’ more forgiving natures. When it comes to straight-lining crud and then having to shut things down fast, that’s a combination I appreciate.

Jonathan: That was all well put. For really pinning it down difficult snow, there are more inherently stable skis on the market. But this ski feels very comfortable and intuitive in weird, off-piste conditions that it is easy to slow things down a bit and pick your way through teeth-rattling conditions, while also being enough ski that if you just decide to say Screw It and point it, there is enough support there to help you keep it together.

Groomers

Luke: All of the Enforcers carve well for their respective widths, and the Enforcer 104 Free is no exception. It initiates a turn predictably, I never felt that it hooked up unexpectedly, and it holds an edge well for its width. And while the Enforcer 110 carves really well for how wide it is, the Enforcer 104 Free takes it up a notch — it feels a bit stronger and more solid on edge, and I feel more comfortable laying it over on firm snow.

That said, there are definitely a few skis in this waist width that carve a bit better on pure ice compared to the Enforcer 104 Free (e.g., Fischer Ranger 102 FR). But on anything softer than ice, the Enforcer 104 Free held an edge quite well, and when things did get truly icy, I could predictably slide my turns on the Enforcer 104 Free.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Jonathan Ellsworth on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO.

In terms of turn shapes, the Enforcer 104 Free is pretty versatile — I could carve pretty tight turns, but it also felt comfortable opening things up into Super-G-sized turns. I’d say the Enforcer 104 Free feels more damp than energetic, but it’s not completely dead — it’ll still provide a bit of energy out of a turn.

Jonathan: I mostly just want to say how much I like carving these … which is something that I’ve said about every ski in the Enforcer lineup (including the 191 cm, 115mm wide, Enforcer Pro, and will be writing soon about the new 88mm-wide Enforcer 88).

To be clear, this is not to say that I think that all of these skis have “the same” carving performance, but if we just zero in on the Enforcer 100, 104 Free, and 110 for a minute, I’d say that these skis all feel intuitive and easy to carve, offer good stability at speed, are extremely easy to roll up on edge, have shovels that are soft enough to happily bend into hard, medium-sized turns, strong enough to make big turns (especially on softer groomers), and have tails that are solid enough to let you finish turns with some power and snap.

Moguls, Trees, & Tighter Terrain

Luke: The Enforcer 104 Free is a pretty heavy ski, and that weight is noticeable in tight terrain — this isn’t the easiest ski to flick around. But its rocker profile makes it easier to pivot than flatter-tailed skis, and I think intermediate through expert skiers won’t have much of a problem maneuvering it through trees, bumps, etc.

Sure, you can find plenty of skis that are significantly easier to whip around and that are more forgiving if you get backseat. But if you care about stability at speed and low-speed maneuverability, well, that’s where the Enforcer 104 Free starts to stand out. It requires a decent amount of physical input to flick around, but I never felt like the ski was bucking me during awkward movements, and when I cleared the tight spots and got to let the ski run, its damp construction kept me moving without much deflection.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Jonathan Ellsworth on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO.

Oh, and when that tight terrain was really firm and bumpy? That’s another area where I’d argue that a heavier ski like the Enforcer 104 Free is actually better than a lighter ski that’s more nimble. Because when the snow gets nasty, the Enforcer 104 Free is less likely to chatter than those lighter skis, and instead will stay tracking where you want it to. For hacking quick turns down a steep, firm chute, I’d rather have the Enforcer 104 Free’s damp feel than a quicker, lighter ski that’s just going to chatter like crazy and be a handful to keep in line when conditions are rough.

Jonathan: Just as a slight counterpoint to Luke’s first couple of paragraphs in this section, I can’t really say that the Enforcer 104 Free ever felt “heavy” to me. This is probably because, once inbounds skis start getting too light, I am pretty quick to find them becoming “scary,” so I am much happier to have to provide a bit more input.

Where Luke and I definitely agree is that this ski isn’t punishing or jarring — it produces a nice suspension that has made the ski feel good when skiing scraped-off, firm moguls, thick chop, deeper snow, etc. And I was just on a new competitor to the Enforcer 104 Free the other day that I definitely would not describe as having nice suspension, which is just to say that we are not yet at a point in ski design where I think this can be taken as a given.

Mount Point

Luke: I spent my time on the Enforcer 104 Free with the bindings either on the recommended line (~8.8 cm from center) or about +2 cm in front of that line (~6.8 cm from center). I think most directional skiers will get along very well with the ski on the line — you can drive it hard, its tail is pretty forgiving but supportive, and the ski engages carved turns predictably.

If you’re looking for a more playful, balanced feel, you might want to try bumping the bindings a couple cm forward of that line. As someone who likes having the option of either skiing with a centered / balance stance (not pressuring the front of my boots much) or also driving the front of my skis hard, I liked the Enforcer 104 Free at +2 cm in front of the line. It felt a touch more balanced in the air, I had more tail support on landings, and I didn’t feel like I really lost anything vs. skiing it on the line.

Jonathan: I don’t have much to add here, other than to report that I have only skied the 104 Free on the line, and never felt tempted to move it.

Playfulness

Luke: The Enforcer 104 Free is not all that playful compared to all-mountain-freestyle skis with more rocker and more symmetrical flex patterns, but it is more playful than many of the metal-laminate all-mountain skis out there.

When it comes to pop, energy, low swing weight, and skiing with a very balanced stance, the Enforcer 104 Free is not super playful. It has a fairly stiff tail relative to its tips, it’s more damp than it is poppy, it feels pretty heavy in the air, and it feels best when skied with at least a bit of pressure on the tips.

Blister reviews the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free
Luke Koppa on the Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, Crested Butte, CO. (photo by Matt White)

But when it comes to being able to slash and slarve your way around the mountain, the Enforcer 104 Free’s rocker profile does make it feel more playful than other skis in its class with less rocker like the Blizzard Bonafide, K2 Mindbender 99Ti, Volkl Mantra M5, etc. Plus, the Enforcer 104 Free skis switch pretty well.

So if you spin a lot and prioritize freestyle performance more than stability, check out some of the options in the “All-Mountain Freestyle” section of our Winter Buyer’s Guide. And if you love a flat tail that holds onto the end of a turn, look to the “All-Mountain — More Stable” section in that guide. But if you appreciate a damp and stable feel and like to throw some slashes in between your carved turns, the Enforcer 104 Free is a great option.

Jonathan: Yep.

Who’s It For?

We think a lot of high-intermediate to expert skiers could get along well with the Enforcer 104 Free. It’s pretty easy to ski for how stable it is, it works very well across a wide variety of conditions and terrain, and it brings a bit of playfulness that many directional metal-laminate skis lack.

Are you a heavier intermediate skier (say, 175-180 lbs or more) who’s improving and wants a ski that won’t hold you back in the future, but that won’t kick your ass in the meantime? Check out the Enforcer 104 Free

Are you an advanced or expert skier who wants a ski that’s pretty stable at speed but that doesn’t feel quite as directional and one-dimensional (read: boring) as most flat-tailed metal-laminate skis? Check out the Enforcer 104 Free.

Do you fall into either of the above categories and are looking for a 1-ski quiver that can handle pretty much any condition or terrain you throw at it? Again, check out the Enforcer 104 Free.

Bottom Line

The Nordica Enforcer 104 Free had a lot to live up to. The Enforcer 100 and 110 and already really good skis, and the 10 mm gap between them may seem negligible on paper. But with the Enforcer 104 Free, Nordica has taken the stable-yet-forgiving nature of both of those skis and crafted it into a very versatile ski. It’s quite stable without being super hard to ski, does a good job of blending the Enforcer 100’s firm-snow performance with the Enforcer 110’s playfulness, and has overall impressed us across the gamut of conditions we’ve used it in.

Deep Dive Comparisons

Become a Blister Member or Deep Dive subscriber to check out our Deep Dive of the Enforcer 104 Free to see how it stacks up against the Nordica Enforcer 100 & 110, Fischer Ranger 102 FR, K2 Mindbender 108Ti, Line Sick Day 104, Rossignol Soul 7 HD, Salomon QST 106, 4FRNT MSP 107 & 99, Blizzard Rustler 10, ON3P Wrenegade 108, J Skis Metal, Black Crows Corvus, and Moment Commander 108.

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61 comments on “2021-2022 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free”

  1. Tom – Perhaps you have already, but I’d give the 115/Pro a ski before you spend too much time wishing for a non-FR 100. I say this as someone who has thought the same thing myself – that a “regular” Enforcer 110ish would be amazing.

    The “free” series is legit. I think the flex pattern of the 104 is more like the 93 than the 100. The ski handles pow really really well and is more playful in soft conditions than the 100 but, like the 100, is super stable and handles speed and harder conditions like a Nordica with two sheets of metal not your typical twin tip.

  2. Thanks, TJ. All that makes sense, except it’s nearly — or completely — impossible for me to demo an Enforcer Pro, and I’ve pretty much hated every ski I’ve owned with significant tail rocker.

    Old habits die hard, I guess!

  3. Thanks for the post. Is the 104 Free the love child of the Enforcer 100 and the Soul Rider ? How do they compare?

    Thanks

    CJ

    • Not really. All the Enforcers are significantly stiffer than the Soul Riders and are much less playful. The Enforcer 104 Free is essentially a narrower Enforcer 110, or a wider Enforcer 100 with more tail rocker and a stiffer tail.

  4. Cannot wait to read more about this ski. My daily driver is an Enforcer 93 and been eyeing a ski in this class, so the 104 Free could be the ticket! I’ll take out my 93 in pretty much anything under double digits so I’m wondering how the 104 does in the 10-20 inch range. I feel that the 93 punches above its weight in deeper snow and hoping the 104 does the same. I’ve also read elsewhere that the 104 “feels like an Enforcer” when you ski it and since I love my 93, I’m psyched if the 104 “feels like an Enforcer” that I can take out on deeper days when the 93 might be overmatched.

    • I’m in the same boat, with the same DD. I love my 93s and I demoed the 104s last week and loved them. I’m just wondering if it might be better to go up to the 110 over the 104.

      I live in seattle, and am looking to put a shift on these to get started doing some tours near the resorts when the lines get long. I wonder if keeping it narrower will help in more variable conditions out of the resort, and the heavier usually means you can make do with narrower skis in deeper powder.

  5. Hey Blister,

    I’m really intrigued with these skis. How you compare these skis to more popular 104-108mm waist width skis such as the Black Crows Atris or the Rossignol Soul 7. How would you rank these 3 in the following categories? 1. Floatation 2. Carving 3. Maneuverability 4. Overall Ease of Use

    I’m from the Midwest, so we don’t get to demo a lot of the smaller skis brands such ON3P, RMU or even Line. So, I’m using these skis as a reference point since I’m familiar with both of them.

    I currently ski the Enforcer 110 185cm of powder days and I find it really useful for low angle tree skiing, off-trail and moguls. But I can overpower it it on firmer groomers and steeper off-trail conditions. I’m 6’0″ 200 lbs. 43 years old type 3 skier. Do you think the Enforcer 104 significantly has more backbone than the Enforcer 110? Is there much of a performance overlap with these skis? Is the 186cm version suited for bigger guys like me?

    Thanks!

  6. I’d be interested to hear some comparisons to the J Skis Metal. They sound similar in terms of being fairly heavy but with a forgiving shape.

    • Great Review guys!

      Luke, I am your same height and weight, and a very strong skier. Quick question for ya, did you ever feel that the 186, specifically at +2, was a bit to long?
      I just picked up a set so I’m stoked to getem mounted up!

      Thanks again!
      -patrick

  7. I thought I’d add what is a semi-long-term review of my experience with the ski. The 104 absolutely rips. I’m going to call the 104 “The Mullet” – you know, party in the back, business in the front. It’s the best way I can describe the ski, plus who doesn’t like a cliche analogy in a ski review!

    First, I generally don’t love tail rocker. I prefer a supportive stiff tail and get thrown off by the rocker/camber/rocker profile in a lot of skis. For this reason I had my reservations about the 104, but they were all proven wrong. Many folks have commented above and, understandably, asked for comparison to other twin tip skis. To that I’d say that the 104 is a directional ski that happens to have a twin. The 104 can be playful (more on that later), but what stands out for me is that it has a backbone. This really stands out at higher speeds where many twin tips feel scary. The 104 can handle a straightline and being run on a flat base without the lack of stability you get from many other skis, especially those with tail rocker/twins. The flex pattern on the ski is very dialed with no weird flex points and plenty of stiffness without being unreasonably stiff.

    My experience with the 104 ranges from 12″ of blower pow, to perfect groomers, to re-frozen variable crap. It performed beautifully in all of these conditions. The 93 will always ski hard groomers better, but the 104 has plenty of bit. On most days I’ll trade the 104s stability for the better grip of the 93. Like all of the Enforcers, the skis is very willing to be driven like a race ski and darn near makes a slalom turn if you ask it to. On the other side of the coin, all the Enforcers I have been on punch above their weight (width) in soft snow performance. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the 100 in softer conditions when I would have ideally been on a wider ski, and the 104 is just that much better. I’d love to offer a soft snow comparison to the 110 but I’ve not skied it.

    As for comparisons to other brands, some folks have asked about the Atris from Black Crows. Both are wide twins that are super fun to carve groomers on, but that’s where the comparison ends. The stability of the 104 blows the doors off the Atris in chopped up snow and variable conditions. (Heck, I found the 93 more stable than the Atris in chop.) In that sense, the 104 is more like the Black Crows Corvus (I’ve not skied the 2019 re-model). The old Corvus was a favorite of mine because it paired the ability to carve hard snow with excellent stability in variable conditions. That’s what you get with the 104 but not with the Atris, which on paper seems like the more comparable ski. Another ski that is arguably comparable is the Rustler 10. I think people will find that the 104 is “more ski” than the Rustler 10 without losing much on the playful end. The 104 reminds me of some old favorite of a decade ago like the original Line Prophet 100 or the OG Volk Gotama. A lot has changed in ski design since then so I’m not saying these skis are comparable, but if you were a fan of these older models back then you’re going to like the 104 now.

    Finally, I mounted mine about 9.5 for center, or .75 behind the line. This is where I have previously mounted 93s and 100s with success, which is about -1 from the recommended line on those skis. Note that the 104 does not have a more forward recommended mounted point, despite being part of the “free” series, and measures the same as the recommended line on the 110. Personally, I love that this is the case.

    • Great review! I am a UT skier and ski the 93 almost exclusively because I work at Deer Valley and live in Park City, with the Canyons being my other “home resort”. I’ve found just like you did that the 93 punches above its weight (width) in terms of float so for most days at the places I ski, the 93 is sufficient. However, there are days when a little more width would be advantageous so the 104 is the ski I am eyeing for next year to replace my Backland 109s as my “powder” ski. Can’t wait to get on a pair of 104s to try them out.

      • My luggage got lost in the way to Montana in March and I rented a pair of 100s. I absolutely loved them. We were skiing off the lifts so nothing super deep and they were damn near perfect. I do ski in NZ (heli and clubbies) and Japan (guided side country and touring). I have a set of Liberty Double Helix in Japan which I also absolutely love but they’re getting pretty old.

        Could the 104s do triple duty – Montana resorts and cat skiing, NZ clubbies and Japan POW?

        Also, do they ski true to length or a touch short. I’m 173cm, 75kgs, 50yo and ski much more mellow than I used to. I was a more directional skier, and old habits die hard, but have learnt to be a bit looser and love a good slarve turn.

    • Curious how you compare them to the SD 104’s? and to a lesser extent the Masterblaster’s?

      I’m Looking for a “snow day” ski that can handle the typical Sierra snow storm, ie: 12″ new (heavy) in the am > tracked out by 10:30 > heavy/bumpy snow by EOD. Need nimble enough to check speed in the trees, floaty enough to ski in deeper snow without constant supervision, more fun/lively then stiff/dead. I like a lot of suspension to absorb the hits in tracked out heavy snow, Not too worried about edge hold in ice, but still able to carve turns at speed.

      Looking at:
      J Ski Masterblasters (181cm)
      Nordica Enforcer 100 (177cm)
      Nordica Enforcer 104’s (179cm)
      Line SD 104’s (179cm)

  8. Just Demoed the Enforcer 110. I’ve also skied the Enforcer 100 before. This may be sacrilege, but I didn’t like either of them. They both feel stable, and have great edge hold–I actually think the 110 rips groomers better than the 100. The shape of the 110 is pretty much spot on, though I moved the demo bindings forward 2cm. It feels like the perfect all-mountain/freeride ski–turns easily, holds and edge, slarves, not grabby or hooky, can point and shoot (to a certain degree). Basically surfy and stable. Sounds great. But I found them both very boring to ski. I’m blaming the metal in the construction. Sounds like the Enforcer 104 would feel the same.

    So what ski is just like the enforcer 110 as far as size/shape, but has the pop/playfulness of the Bibby Pro? That’s the ski I want…

    • Hmm, that’s a tough one. My first thought would be the Folsom Primary, though I don’t think it’s *that* much poppier and playful vs. the Enforcer 110. Honestly, it sounds like Moment’s new Wildcat 108 would be a great choice, but we haven’t yet skied it. I can’t really think of any skis that are very similar to the Enforcer 110 (in terms of stability, shape, rocker profile, and overall performance), but that are much poppier and more playful. The Armada ARV 106Ti LTD might be an option, but I need more time on that ski to confirm.

  9. Hey Blister,

    I own the Enforcer 100 185cm and I’ve skied the Enforcer 100 185cm. I like both skis tremendously. At my weight and height 6’0″ and 200 LBS, I find the tails of the Enforcer 100 to be a bit sticky, meaning the tails a bit hard to release in steeper off-trail sections with deeper or sticky snow. The Enforcer 100, for me at least is a 50/50 ski. For me, the Enforcer 100 handles pretty much anything on-piste and some off-trail conditions quite weill. Do the 104’s tails release significantly easier than Enforcer 100? Is there a significant performance overlap with the 104 vs. 100? Or would the 110 be the better pick? I liked the 110 in deeper snow, but didn’t find it to carve that well at 185cm. I generally tend to stay on trail at resorts out west and would use this for low-angle tree skiing in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. Thanks!

    • So the Enforcer 104’s tails definitely release easier than the 100’s. I wouldn’t say it’s a totally night-and-day difference, but it is noticeable. And I’d say there’s a bit of performance overlap between the 100 and 104, in that they’re both pretty versatile skis for their size and they feel similar in most regards. The 104 floats a bit better, feels a bit more stable at speed, and is a bit easier when it comes to washing out the tails in tight terrain.

  10. I’m a fan of the last generation of Volkl Gotamas 107mm full rocker. It’s time for a change and I’d like a slightly more playful ski but still able to rail groomers and float freshies, so how would the 104 Frees compare?

  11. I’m considering getting these as my primary resort skis (I have the fantastic Völkl VTA 98 for touring but find it pretty exhausting on firm snow, and my frontside carvers are zero fun off-piste). However, I’m a very light, tall skier (185cm/6’1″ and 67kg/150lbs). Do you think I’d be better advised with a lighter ski like the Rustler 10?

  12. Wow!! You guys seriously have to be the best reviewers. Eyes are tired after that (good thing). I currently ski the Backland 102’s in 188. I am almost 6’3″ and give or take 110 LBS at 44 years of age. I live and ski mostly Tahoe Squaw/Kirkwood/Mt. Rose and take at lease a few two day trips per year to Mammoth.

    I am an advanced to low expert, frontside All-mountain skier who is still learning the deep and steeps (still timid depending on how steep and deep). I originally bought my Backlands because of how variable even the front side conditions get at many of these resorts and I wanted to get better riding big back bowls etc. I’ve come to find though, at speed on soft groomed runs, I have skied out the Backlands on long GS carves and it made me realize I missed having metal in these.

    Now, what I’m really trying to master right now are sort of the hoppy quick turns, as well as, the smeary turns in the deeper steeper powder bowls. Also forgot to mention, I’m still not great in even fresh power that more then 12 inches deep.

    With all that said, will I be loosing any of the playful and forgivingness with the 104 free versus my backlands? Will I have a harder time learning the deep and steeps of could the Enforcer free actually benefit me. Again, as some have mentioned, I feel so much better at my size when having metal in my skis. Just don’t want to loose the ease of use I have in the steeps

    Thanks for any feedback you can give

  13. I’m close to pulling the trigger on these but questioning what length I should go with(186 vs 191). Does anyone have any experience riding both lengths? I’m 6′ tall, 205 lbs. expert level and ski mostly at Snowbird and Brighton.

    • I just bought a pair of 186s last week. I love this ski. I am 5’8″ 170 ski mostly Snowbird/Alta. I haven’t skied the 191s but at your height/weight that is what I would choose. I think the 186s would ski short for you. My other pair of skis- Volkl Shiro 183. Good luck!

  14. Matt, I can’t answer your question perfectly but I might be able to shed some light. I’m 5″8′ (173 cm) 165 lbs advanced level skier in the west. I’ve skied at Snowbird, Solitude and Alta in your area so I’m familiar with the snow and pitch where you ski. I first bought the 169 cm Enforcer 100s and loved them everywhere when the snow was predictable. As soon as I ramped up the speed or put myself in variable snow conditions, they showed their shortness. I ski about 60/40 off piste and the length definitely held me back. I tried varying my speed, stance and weight distribution but I just couldn’t get comfortable in the gnar. So, I picked up a pair of 177 cm and the difference was night and day. Everything I loved about the shorter version was still true and now speed and gnar were no issue. If I extrapolate that to the 185 cm version, for me personally, it would be too much ski to maneuver in trees and steeps and more than I want to handle at slower speeds. Having said that, my big ski is a Moment Wildcat 184 and I’ll ride that ski anywhere … fast, slow, steep, mellow, groomers, trees and gnar. I think the low swing weight makes the difference here for me.

    I too am about to pull the trigger on a set of 104 Free and I’ll be getting them in 179 cm. They will replace my 177 cm Enforcer 100s. I want the turned up tail for easier tail disengagement in steep, high consequence terrain.

    • Jeff, did you end up getting the 179cm 104 enforcers? I’m same height and weight and ability level, live in Utah, deciding between 172 and 179cm. How’d it go for you?

  15. Fantastic reviews! Like so many others..I too am looking for suggestions on length for the 104 FREE. I’m 5’8″ 165lbs and a advanced to expert skier. I ski in the Rocky Mountains of Canada so the conditions are variable. I can’t decide between the 172cm or the 179cm? I’ve never skied something as long as a 179cm so not sure as I haven’t heard if these skis ski short or long? Or what the effective edge is? Any help would be great!

    Cheers

    • Did you end up with the 172 or 179cm 104 enforcers? I’m same height and weight, wondering how you’ve liked them?

  16. **Update from my above post*** I was able to speak with someone at a local shop who was 6’5″ tall and 250lbs and had skied on the 186cm length. He told me that if he were to buy them he may go to the 191 length but the 186 didn’t feel too short for him at all. He’s got 5″ and almost 50 lbs on me so I think I’m going with the 186 to not sacrifice any agility in tighter terrain. I typically ski about this length and was concerned that with the rocker(currently have rossi S6s without rocker) they would ski super short.

  17. Thanks for the great review! I’m looking to pick up an all-mountain twin for resort days without fresh snow. I want something that can really rail groomers, and be stable in off-piste leftovers and crud, but also mess around in the park, stomp airs, and ski switch. It sounds like the Free 104 checks all those boxes, although at 104 is probably wider than what I really need (if there’s more than a few inches of fresh I’ll probably ride my pow skis). Would you recommend these for that use case? Any other skis I should check out?

  18. Hey guys. Fantastic review. I am down to the Enforcer 104 vs Salomon QST 106. I’ve been skiing Soul 7 and have been generally happy but feel the tips are just a tiny bit light/floaty unless I am jammed all the way forward. I am 6’0, 205, expert, and ski Taos 90% of the time. I like trees, bumps, exploring side country, and occasionally flying down groomers. Can you make a recommendation between my two finalists? Thank you!

  19. Thanks for all the great comments and information. I am between the Enforcer 104 and the Head Kore 105. This would be a ski for Utah back country and I am a young 50, 5’10” 165 lbs and an expert skier. I was able to demo the Enforcer as well as some others and the Enforcer 104 stood out and felt great and I did love it BUT I am unable to demo the Head Kore 105. I do like the lighter weight of the Kore but am unable to put it under foot. If you were to pick 1 ski for off piste what would you choose and how do these differ?

    • Hey Paul, its been a couple months since you posted this question. Did you get an answer or make a decision on your own? I just returned from Telluride and spent a full day each on the Enforcer 104 Free and Head Kore 105, both in the 179 length. I’m 52, 5’08” and 175lbs. I’m an advanced skier and my everyday ride is the now discontinued Salomon X-Drive 8.8 179cm. I prefer a stable carving ski over something more “playful,” whatever that means; I want my skis to initiate the turn and hold it until I want it to release. Then, I want energy out of the tail as I initiate my next turn. The 88mm Salomon does that in spades all day long and its fantastic in everything up to and including several inches of soft snow. But I’m needing something wider yet versatile in conditions from several inches to a foot/foot and a half but that also doesn’t leave me slipping/sliding all over the groomers (so, true all-mountain). I think the 102-108mm range, among other things, fits that bill nicely. I found the Enforcer to be exactly what I was looking for in terms of turn initiation but the Kore 105 was exactly what I was looking for finishing the turn. Now again, I prefer a carving ski. And my experience was entirely inbounds at a resort. The Enforcer’s tails definitely broke loose more quickly: of course they did, the rocker and taper guarantee that. Off piste, the Enforcer would seem to be the more logical choice but I really enjoyed the stiff flex and turn finish of the Kore. FWIW also, I think the Enforcer might ski a little short but I also think that’s highly subjective. The Kore felt exactly like I expect a 180 to ski. Anyways, cheers.

    • Definitely — the tail is plenty high to ski switch in most conditions, apart from very deep snow. That said, mounting them around -6 cm from true center (or farther forward) does make for a more natural and intuitive switch-skiing experience.

  20. Sorry one more quick Q. I’m gonna pick these up but not sure on length. I’m 5’8″ 170 lb. Should I go for the 172 or 179. Thanks!

    • I am 64 and 5’6, 160 lbs, advanced to expert skier. I like quick and GS turns. I have recently moved out West from the East and I’m learning to ski deep powder better. I also have a pair of Rossignol Super 7’s, 172 cm. Only got ro use them in 6-12″ last year. What length 104’s would you recommend?

  21. I am 64 and 5’6, 160 lbs, advanced to expert skier. I like quick and GS turns. I have recently moved out West from the East and I’m learning to ski deep powder better. I also have a pair of Rossignol Super 7’s, 172 cm. Only got ro use them in 6-12″ last year. What length 104’s would you recommend?

  22. Hi, Do the 104 require a size up? A 6ft 215pound strong intermediate to adavnced skier run with the 186 vs 179? Groomers/ glades. Thanks in advance Nick.

    • At your height and weight I think the 186 cm would make the most sense, but what skis / lengths have you been on in the past, and did any of them feel particularly long or short to you?

  23. Just came upon this site for the first time. My 2 cents: I’m about 5’11”, 175 lbs, pretty aggressive on the hill & skied the enforcer 104s this last (shortened) season, all in the northeast. Last skis were mantra 100s 177cm , then bonafide 98s 180cm. I got talked into going up to 186cm with the enforcer 104s & although I agree with all comments regarding stability, ease on groomers, etc I personally found them to be fairly heavy…even on the smooth groomers. I felt like I was lumbering through the day, even when in the pow (well, northeast pow anyway). And forget about following my kids into the woods strapped with these Cadillacs!! I wanted to love these & maybe if I went down to 179 the experience would be different. Anyway, just passing along my experience with the enforcer 104s. Definitely don’t hate em… (Those mantra 100s were the balls! Used to float on those things & eventually got used to the chatter).

  24. I ski mainly on the west coast (mostly Tahoe, occasionally Jackson/Utah), and I have a Stockli Stormrider 88 for firm/poor conditions and groomer days. I am looking for a ski for softer conditions – would the enforcer 104 be a good choice? I am skiing mainly off-trail (bowls, chutes, moguls), but not backcountry. I am deciding between the 104 or something that would have better flotation on the occasional powder days (e.g ON3P Woodsman 108 or Enforcer 110)

  25. Really considering these for my next skis. I’m on Head Monster 98s in a 184, and while I really like them, they are almost too smooth. Plus my daughter (9 y/o) is very into park skiing and it’s really not a fun ski in a park.

    Mainly ski eastern, one trip out west a year and I really want that one ski to go everywhere. But I’m torn between sizes. Weigh about 185, 5’9 and am pretty strong and when skiing alone I like going fast with long turns. I’m leaning towards the 186 and mounting up 2cm. But should I really consider the 179?

  26. Have a pair of Enforcer 93’s and love them, really a nice all mountain , every day ski. Also had a pair of 100’s that were as smooth as silk, but I had some trouble turning them quickly. Going edge to edge especially in tight spots was a problem for me. Now you can chalk that up to “operator ” problems, reflexes are not what they use to be. I wanted something a bit wider (for POW) that were as smooth as the 100’s but turned like the 93’s. So I tried the 104 free and never looked back. The 104 free is now my everyday, go anywhere do anything ski. From the first turn, which was smooth, quick and tight, it was just so easy to ski, you might say effortless. I believe the 104’s are quicker ( same length) than my 93’s. But hey, that’s my take for how I ski. They bite when they have to even on hard pack, are forgiving and slash crude/pow easily. Very stable, what do the experts call that “damp” but really no chatter, no vibration, no nothing. Ski just goes where you tell it to go. For me I always felt under control with the ski no matter where I went, or how fast I was going. Now I am not a huge bump guy but soft bumps are a magnet to me. The 104 ‘s just took me down the run no sweat. Best of all I was able to easily control my speed, which at my age (75) is important (I don’t bounce so good anymore). Yes the 104’s are a bit heavy to carry but on my feet I honestly never felt they were heavy or even thought about it. I guess I would tell anyone looking for an all around solid ski, try it you will not be sorry you did.!

  27. I’m looking for a one-ski quiver to replace my 2014 Blizzard Bonafides 180cm. I’m 5’10”, 205lb, expert skier. Spend most time out west in the trees & bumps, but occasional groomers (plus pow when it’s there). It sounds like the Rustler 10 is more playful than the Bonafides, which is a plus in my book. Your reviews of the Nordica Enforcer 100 and 104 also make them sound like a great option as well and I’m wondering what you’d recommend and at what length. I don’t mind sacrificing a little stability for nimbleness in the bumps & trees, since I don’t do a lot of hard charging on groomers. Thanks for all the great reviews on the site.

  28. Okay, since I have that Ski my quiver, I would like to share a few comments here as well:

    Me:
    6.2 ft, 225lbs., and on good days (no Hangover) I consider myself more of an expert Skier.

    Ski:
    Nordica Enforcer 104 Free in 191 cm, Look Pivot 18 and Dalbello Kryptons

    Comments:
    The Ski is easy to ski. It turns without much input and is more on the playful side. For me, it is my ski just to have fun all over the mountain. The best use for this ski is on soft snow, slush or powder. Those are the conditions when this ski is really a blast. Also, the ski is a great carver for how wide and long it is.
    The Ski is still good on firm snow but needs more input. Not by applying more force but you have to be more concentrated, because the playfulness makes the ski also more bound to deflect easier.
    On crud, refrozen slush or any other Kind of bad snow conditions the ski is out of its comfort zone. At least in my weight class the ski becomes significantly more unstable and it takes some effort to keep the front part of the ski under control. If you ski the 104 in these snow conditions, you either need to slow down a bit or switch to a more damp and directional ski (e.g. Katana).
    I use this ski on soft snow days and sometimes as my “recovery-ski” (meaning I am either worn out by riding my XXLs for three days in a row or I am having a hangover).
    I like this ski. I consider moving the binding -1 or maybe even more in order to get more ski in front of me but other than that I am happy with the 104.

  29. I’ve been looking at this ski for this year. I’m 6’4”, 230 lbs in my mid 40’s. I’ve gone from intermediate to advanced over the last few years and I’m looking for something that has a good mix of stability and forgiveness. I’m not a super hard charger and I like being all over the mountain. I like that it sounds like this ski is good at both lower and higher speeds. I had been comparing it to a Rustler 10 and the QST 106.

    My big question is does my size pretty much lock me in at 191? I’ve got a chance to get this ski used lightly at a good price at 186, but if I’m much better off in the 191 I’ll just suck it up and get that. Any advice from the guys or the peanut gallery is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

  30. Is Enforcer 104 suitable for touring? If yes; What kind of touring binding is suitable? I am inclined towards great free ride performance than touring. It is contradictory but, I want to use it for multiday touring in high altitude and remote mountains with semi heavy backpack.

  31. I am very interested in this ski but I’m hung up on sizing. I am looking to replace a pair of jeffery 108’s in the 181 size but I feel I am very much in between sizes. I found the Jeffery’s to lack the stability that I was looking for and I don’t find them to at least make up for it by being all that loose and playful. I was searching out a more everyday version of the original black ops and from reading the review I was pretty confident that the Jeffery was the ski but it really did not turn out to be the ski for me. To be honest I hate them which is extremely disappointing as they are a very quality pair of skis. TLDR; I am looking for a a ski that can be let loose to run but can still slash around and be fun. And the jeffery just isn’t it.

    For reference I’m 5’7 and weight about 165. I like to think I am a strong technical skier with tree trunks for legs. I still like to jump off anything I can find but I never spin more than a 3 off cat tracks and those type hits. This seems to be the ticket aside from the sizing for me as I am a bit lost there.

    Thanks in advance!

  32. Hi,
    thanks a lot for the detailed review – very helpful. It would be super nice, if you could give me advice with regard to length of the ski:

    I am 189 cm tall (6 foot 2) and weigh about 84 kg. I would call myself an advanced skier – definitely not an expert, though. So far my one quiver is a Rossignol Soul 7 HD in 188 cm length. I am thinking about replacing it with the Nordica Enforcer Free 104, since I ski mainly in the Alps with some fresh powder days but often with mixed conditions and while I love the easieness of the Soul 7 I am feeling the Soul 7 sometimes lacks a bit of supportiveness in these conditions. I hope for the Nordica Enforcer Free 104 to allow me to ski a little bit more aggressive, while still being maneuverable enough.

    The point I am unsure with is ski length: While the Soul 7 in 188 cm length never feeIs too long to me, I am a little bit afraid that the Enforcer in 191 cm length could be too much ski for me in tight spaces and at the same time I am not sure if 186 cm isn’t too short for my body size. I would be really grateful for any thoughts or comments on that!

  33. Looking for some advice! I’m 6’4” 200lbs and have been skiing the 191 length of the 104 Free… honestly one of my favorite skis I’ve been on. I got in a little bit of a sketchy spot today and I’m afraid I may have busted/cracked my skis. The shovels snap/crackle/pop with every turn now. I’m trying to decide if I should replace them straight up with the same ski, or try something new. Things I love about the 104 Free: carving, dampness, playfulness, easy to maneuver in tight spots. Things I don’t love so much: top-end stability, my edges occasionally catch at speed (probably just needed a detune). I’m wondering if there’s another ski out there similar to the 104 Free, but with a bit more stability at speed? This ski will be apart of my 3 ski resort quiver, which also includes a pair of old Brahma 88s and some 190 Bibby Pros… so probably looking for a waist width of 100-105ish. I’m also more of a directional rider. Alrighty, talk me out of another 104 Free.

  34. I went for 179 and I don’t know if I made mistake. Im 171cm(5’7”) and 85 kilos(182lbs). A bit havier for my height but I feel my K2 Catamaran a bit long especially when doing kick turn while touring. I think 8cm above my head should be fine, but I don’t know how will that work with that much rocker in the tail? My 178 Kastle BMX 108 was fine, but it’s directional charger smashing the mountain

  35. How do they compare to the DPS Koala 103? I like skiing fast and hitting side hits, I’m also planning on doing some touring on them, I’ll mount marker duke pt bindings. Which one would you recommend me? Thanks!

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