Ski: 2019-2020 Moment PB&J, 188 cm
Available Lengths: 162, 172, 182, 188 cm
Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length: 186.2 cm
Stated Weight per Ski: 1860 grams
Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 1903 & 1912 grams
Stated Dimensions: 129-101-121 mm
Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 128.9-101.0-120.5 mm
Stated Sidecut Radius (188 cm): 23 meters
Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 65 mm / 62 mm
Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: 5-6 mm
Core: aspen/pine + carbon stringers + fiberglass laminate
Base: sintered Durasurf 4001
Factory Recommended Mount Point: -5.4 cm from center; 87.7 cm from tail
Intro
The PB&J is Moment’s narrowest all-mountain-freestyle ski, slotting between the park-oriented, 98mm-wide Frankenski and Moment’s wider freestyle skis, such as the 107mm-wide Meridian, 108mm-wide Wildcat 108, and 112mm-wide Deathwish.
We reviewed the original PB&J a few years back and were impressed by its blend of playfulness and stability, but the ski has seen some changes over the years, and we’ll be spending more time on the 19/20 version this year. Check out our video First Look for the quick rundown on this ski, and then here we’ll be covering the details of the new ski before posting our full review later this season.
Oh, and if you really want to nerd out, one of our Blister Members had Moment build him a custom, “Extra Crunchy” PB&J, and you can read more about that ski here.
What Moment says about the PB&J
“If you change a PB&J sandwich too much, it’s not a PB&J anymore. But that doesn’t mean you can’t make a better one. So we tweaked our recipe, adding dual-radius sidecut for easier engagement, release, and carve-ability without affecting the overall feel of the ski. Like going from store brand jelly to the fancy stuff, you might not be able to see it, but one bite and you can tell the difference immediately. And no tantrums, please—the new PB&J still rips, from hardpack laps to landing switch in the park and shredding the occasional storm-day dump in between. We’re confident you’ll love the new recipe. Come get a taste.”
It’s pretty clear in Moment’s description that the changes made to the 19/20 PB&J are not meant to be drastic / change the overall personality (or… vibe?) of the ski. The main change is a switch from a standard sidecut radius to a dual-radius sidecut. It’s worth noting that the average sidecut length of the ski hasn’t changed (still listed as 23 meters for the 188 cm version), but the new dual-radius sidecut is supposed to make the ski feel better both on and off edge, and allow for a more intuitive carving experience.
Shape / Rocker Profile
No change here — the PB&J still has a lot of rocker for a 101mm-wide ski. Compared to many skis in the all-mountain-freestyle category like the Nordica Soul Rider 97, Dynastar Menace 98, Line Blend, Armada Edollo, Rossignol Black Ops 98, and traditional-camber Prior Northwest 100, the PB&J has much, much deeper rocker lines. The Faction Prodigy 3.0, ON3P Magnus 102, and J Skis Vacation are three skis that have more similar rocker profiles compared to the PB&J, but it’s definitely safe to say that the PB&J falls on the “more rockered” end of the spectrum.
The PB&J was originally designed as a narrower version of the wider Moment Wildcat, and the two skis’ rocker profiles look almost identical. Their rocker lines are extremely similar, though our pair of the PB&J has slightly less tip and tail splay.
The PB&J’s shape is also very similar to the Wildcat and Wildcat 108. It has some early taper in the tips and tails (more than many traditional park skis), but its tips and tails don’t taper nearly as much as skis like the Vacation and Prodigy 3.0.
Flex Pattern
Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the PB&J:
Tips: 7.5
Shovels: 8-9
In Front of Toe Piece: 9.5
Underfoot: 10
Behind the Heel Piece: 10-9.5
Tails: 9-7.5
The PB&J is a really strong ski, particularly for a freestyle ski. Its tips and tails are stiffer than many of the more directional skis in this category, and there are few freestyle-oriented skis we’ve flexed that are similarly stiff or stiffer.
The Faction Prodigy 3.0 is one ski that rivals the PB&J in terms of stiffness, and overall seems like one of the better comparisons due to its similar rocker profile. Similar story with the ON3P Magnus 102, which is also very stiff and also has very deep rocker lines. But both of those skis are significantly heavier than the PB&J.
Compared to the Moment Wildcat and Wildcat 108, the PB&J is similarly stiff around the middle, but it’s a bit stiffer at the very ends.
Mount Point
The PB&J is a ski designed with freestyle performance in mind, and its mount point reflects that. At -5.4 cm from center on our pair, its mount point is much closer to center than more directional skis, but not as far forward as some park skis like the Armada Edollo and Armada BDOG.
Weight
The PB&J is pretty light for its size. Our pair of the 188 cm version is coming in at a little over 1900 grams per ski. The original PB&J was much heavier, but as Moment tweaked their construction methods, their skis lost weight (listen to this GEAR:30 podcast with Moment’s CEO, Luke Jacobson, to hear the whole story about that). The new PB&J isn’t quite as light as some skis like the Atomic Bent Chetler 100, but most of the similarly wide freestyle skis we’ve weighed are heavier than the new PB&J.
While we thought the old 188 cm PB&J felt a bit sluggish in the air and in the park, we doubt that’ll be the case for the new version. On the flip side, we’re eager to see just how damp the new ski will feel on firmer conditions.
For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. As always, pay close attention to the length differences to keep things more apples-to-apples.
1629 & 1684 Elan Ripstick 96, 180 cm (17/18–19/20)
1734 & 1750 Renoun Endurance 98, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
1800 & 1824 Luke Koppa’s Romp Skis 100, 183 cm (18/19)
1807 & 1840 Atomic Bent Chetler 100, 188 cm (18/19–19/20)
1848 & 1903 Line Sick Day 104, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
1863 & 1894 Blizzard Rustler 9, 180 cm (18/19–19/20)
1894 & 1980 Black Crows Daemon, 183.6 cm (17/18–19/20)
1903 & 1912 Moment PB&J, 188 cm (19/20)
1910 & 1919 Prior Northwest 100, 184 cm (19/20)
1925 & 1937 Liberty Helix 98, 186 cm (18/19–19/20)
1928 & 1933 Moment Commander 98, 178 cm (19/2)
1966 & 1973 Liberty Origin 96, 187 cm (18/19–19/20)
1998 & 2044 4FRNT MSP 99, 181 cm (17/18–19/20)
1950 & 1977 Blizzard Rustler 10, 188 cm (17/18–18/19)
2002 & 2014 J Skis Allplay, 184 cm (16/17–19/20)
2019 & 2022 Rossignol Black Ops 98, 182 cm (18/19–19/20)
2031 & 2038 Faction Candide 2.0, 184 cm (17/18–19/20)
2067 & 2074 Line Blend, 185 cm (15/16–19/20)
2085 & 2096 Dynastar Menace 98, 181 cm (19/20)
2100 & 2118 Armada ARV 96Ti, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
2101 & 2104 Fischer Ranger 102 FR, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
2111 & 2125 J Skis Vacation, 186 cm (18/19–19/20)
2115 & 2149 J Skis Masterblaster, 181 cm (16/17–19/20)
2118 & 2139 Nordica Soul Rider 97, 185 cm (15/16–19/20)
2120 & 2134 Blizzard Rustler 10, 188 cm (19/20)
2126 & 2136 ON3P Magnus 102, 186 cm (18/19–19/20)
2131 & 2189 Nordica Enforcer 100, 185 cm (15/16–19/20)
2133 & 2134 Faction Prodigy 3.0, 183 cm (18/19–19/20)
2222 & 2229 Dynastar Menace 98, 187 cm
2233 & 2255 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, 186 cm (19/20)
Bottom Line (For Now)
The new Moment PB&J maintains most of the design that originally made it stand out — lots of rocker, strong flex pattern, and a progressive mount point — while adding a slight tweak to the sidecut. We’ll be spending more time on the updated PB&J this year, so stay tuned for updates.
What comes first? A full review of the Moment Wildcat 108 Orrrrr The End of Time? Vegas currently has The End of Time as a heavy favourite…..
Haha, if that’s the case, then I need to get my bets in. I have some insider sources that have told me the 184 cm (and potentially 190 cm) Wildcat 108 full review will be posted within the next week and a half…
I put an order for the Wildcat 108s. Just need this review to drop to confirm my bias. The review will make me happy, right? Right?
You’re going to absolutely hate it…
Totally kidding — if you like the current Wildcat, I think you’ll love it. Or if you just like a playful ski with a backbone and a very low swing weight, you’ll also probably like it. I’ll dive into much more detail and hopefully confirm your purchase very soon.
The 190 too, I hope! ;-)
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Are you guys doing short video first takes now? Yes, please.
Yep! Expect many more this season.
Luke, one request on the videos: would be awesome to see you talk through different aspects of the ski in the video while showing us with the ski itself, eg show us the rocker profile, taper/contact points, where the flex ramps up, etc.
Excited for this review; keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback — that’s super helpful as we’re working on more of these videos. The rocker profile is tricky to show while I’m holding the ski due to the size of most of the skis we review, which is why we’re doing the separate shots of the ski & rocker profile, but visually showing where the taper starts / ends and where the flex ramps up is definitely doable.
Looking forward to the full review, hope it comes soon! Cheers!
Thanks for revisiting this latest version with its minor tweaks. I’m a relatively new skier in my third full season. I’ve stuck to relatively softer skis (Mr Pollards Opus, Nomad 105, Camox Freebird) as my skills progress, but on the firm days I’m finding them a bit lacking. As a longtime advanced snowboarder I’m completely comfortable w mach speeds, so it’s easy for me to let it rip and quickly outski my abilities. This also tends to uncover some of the softness on the firm days. I feel that I’m ready for something with more composure for those days. I’m slightly tentative about the PB&J’s stiffness as I’m not a powerful skier. I still have some nagging bad habits that don’t lend well to driving stuff skis. I’m hoping they are a good fit me me to grow into, but would like advice if you can indulge me.
While I think the PB&J could work, I think I’d lean toward something with a bit less rocker if you’ll primarily be using it on firm conditions. If you like the Opus and Nomad 105, then I’d highly recommend checking out the Dynastar Menace 98 and Nordica Soul Rider 97. While they’re not super stiff skis, they are quite damp and they hold an edge really well, so I think that would make them perform better than the Nomad and Opus on firm snow since those skis are quite wide and have a lot of rocker. And while the Menace 98 & Soul Rider are pretty damp and stable, they’re still very playful skis so I think you’d find them very intuitive.
Luke, you guys still planning on doing a full review of the PB&J? Cheers!
Yep, we will, but it’s probably a couple weeks out at least. Lots of skis to get on this time of year. Feel free to shoot us a note using our Member Clubhouse page if you have any particular questions, though: https://blisterreview.com/blister-member-clubhouse
Must have missed a mail somewhere, not heard of the Clubhouse before, looks great.
Hey Luke- any closer to that full in depth review of the pb&j yet? that would be cool if it was. The partial review of this and the full of the Meridian has me torn…
Did Corona completely stop the testing or is a complete review of the PB&J coming? Im really looking to get a pair. If the weightloss have passed without loosing the classic playful/stable feel of the Bibby/PB&J then it could fill my demand completely. So, would you at least say if the weight loss is noticeable in that regard?