Ski: 2024-2025 Nordica Enforcer 104, 185 cm
Test Location: Crested Butte Mountain Resort, CO
Days Skied: ~18
Available Lengths: 167, 173, 179, 185, 191 cm
Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length (straight-tape pull): 183.8 cm
Stated Weight per Ski (185 cm): 2200 grams
Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2273 & 2297 grams
Stated Dimensions: 136-104-126 mm
Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 136-104-126.5 mm
Stated Sidecut Radius (185 cm): 19 meters
Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 60.5 mm / 27.5 mm
Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: 6 mm
Core Materials: poplar/beech + titanal (2 layers) + elastomer layer + fiberglass laminate
Base: sintered
Factory Recommended Mount Point: -7.4 cm from center; 84.6 cm from tail
Boots Used: Atomic Redster CS 130, Atomic Remedy 130, Lange Shadow LV 130
Bindings Used: Marker Griffon
Intro
Nordica has offered a 104mm-wide version of their Enforcer since 2019, with the first Enforcer 104 “Free” featuring a bit more tip and tail rocker than the narrower Enforcers for a more maneuverable and playful ride. However, the Enforcer 104 Free still featured a similarly damp construction with two layers of metal, and the resulting ski offered a very appealing blend of suspension, stability, and maneuverability.
For the 2024-2025 season, Nordica overhauled their Enforcer and women’s-equivalent Santa Ana series, and we covered all the details in our First Look video, embedded below. In the case of the 104, they ditched the “Free” in its name, and the 24/25 Enforcer 104 now looks more similar to its narrower sibling, the Enforcer 99.
So, how does the new un-Freed Enforcer 104 compare to its predecessor, what’s the difference between it and the Enforcer 99, and should you consider it for your next ski? Jonathan Ellsworth offered his initial thoughts last season in his Flash Review, and now we’re all ready to weigh in. But first, we’ll cover the specs and design of this all-mountain ski.
What Nordica says about the Enforcer 104:
“Ski everything better. Whether chasing powder in the trees, lacing turns in softer snow, or lapping spring slush, Nordica’s all-new Enforcer 104 makes the best days even better. As the widest ski in the Enforcer collection, it provides a ride that’s as playful as it is versatile. Thanks to a fresh construction that embeds both a wood core and an elastomer Pulse Core between two layers of titanal, this all-mountain ski is uniquely smooth and powerful–yet also forgiving. No wonder you’ll be grinning ear-to-ear in both soft snow and variable conditions. The mountains are calling–experience everything they have to offer with Nordica’s Enforcer 104.
Armed with a thirst for speed and an affection for carving, the Enforcer series is the most versatile and advanced line of all mountain skis we’ve ever made. Especially balanced, they’re at home laying down turns on groomers, blasting through crud, and exploring the entire resort. Thanks to a full wood core and a layer of Pulse Core sandwiched between two sheets of metal, they deliver exceptional power and stability while offering a smooth and playful ride tailored for trails.”
Construction
All of the 24/25 Enforcers feature a poplar and beech wood core that’s sandwiched between two layers of titanal metal, a layer of elastomer, and a fiberglass laminate. Nordica says that the combination of metal and elastomer results in both improved vibration damping and rebound / energy.
Shape & Rocker Profile
The shape of the Enforcer 104 hasn’t changed, relative to the prior-gen Enforcer 104 Free. It still features minimally tapered tips and tails and a pretty standard-looking shape for this sort of all-mountain ski.
The new ski does feature a slightly different rocker profile, though. Compared to the Enforcer 104 Free, the new Enforcer 104 has slightly lower, less splayed out tips and tails. It still has what I’d call a “semi-twin” tail, but it’s not quite as turned up as the previous ‘Free’ version.
That said, it’s worth pointing out that Nordica increased the tail rocker and tail splay on the narrower Enforcers for 24/25. Consequently, the rocker profiles of the 24/25 Enforcer 104 and Enforcer 99 look very, very similar.
Flex Pattern
Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Enforcer 104:
Tips: 6.5-7
Shovels: 7.5-8.5
In Front of Toe Piece: 9-10
Underfoot: 10
Behind the Heel Piece: 10-9.5
Tails: 9-8.5
This is a strong ski overall. Relative to the previous Enforcer 104 Free, the new Enforcer 104 is a tad stiffer, though it doesn’t feel like a massive difference.
Sidecut Radius
No real change here — the Enforcer 104’s stated sidecut radius is 19 meters for the 185 cm length, which is just a tad shorter than average for a ~105mm-wide all-mountain ski.
Mount Point
Despite not being quite as rockered, the Enforcer 104’s recommended mount point is a bit closer to center than the ski it replaced (-7.5 cm for the new 104 vs. -9 cm for the old 104 Free). This still isn’t a very centered mount point, but it’s a bit more forward than some of the most traditional directional skis in this class.
Weight (and Comparisons)
Our 185 cm Enforcer 104 came in at about 2280 grams per ski. That’s pretty similar to the Enforcer 104 Free, and the new Enforcer 104 remains one of the heavier options in its class.
For reference, here are some of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. As always, keep in mind the length and width differences to try to keep things more apples-to-apples.
1731 & 1750 Liberty Radian 100, 179 cm
1762 & 1769 Dynastar M-Pro 94 Ti, 178 cm
1762 & 1830 DPS Kaizen 105, 179 cm
1781 & 1795 Atomic Maverick 100 Ti, 180 cm (21/22–23/24)
1783 & 1809 Head Kore 93, 184 cm
1815 & 1824 Majesty Havoc 100 Ti, 176 cm
1816 & 1819 Head Kore 99, 184 cm
1821 & 1838 Stöckli Stormrider 95, 182 cm
1824 & 1835 Black Crows Serpo, 180.1 cm
1867 & 1908 DPS Kaizen 105, 184 cm
1884 & 1894 Folsom Cash 106, 176 cm
1915 & 1937 K2 Mindbender 89Ti, 182 cm
1921 & 1927 Fat-ypus D-Sender, 184 cm
1935 & 1962 Fischer Ranger 96, 180 cm
1946 & 1968 Salomon Stance 96, 182 cm
1939 & 1959 Renoun Endurance 88, 184 cm
1952 & 1964 Folsom Cash 93, 185 cm
1967 & 1972 Dynastar M-Pro 100 Ti, 186cm
1976 & 2028 Parlor Cardinal Pro, 182 cm
1981 & 1991 Faction Dancer 2, 182 cm
1989 & 2000 Folsom Cash 106, 188 cm
1990 & 2045 Peak 104 by Bode, 184 cm
1998 & 2010 Stöckli Stormrider 102, 182 cm
2008 & 2015 Folsom Spar 88, 182 cm
2008 & 2043 ZAG Harfang 96, 182 cm
2008 & 2049 Black Crows Corvus, 186.2 cm
2009 & 2010 Rossignol Sender 104 Ti, 186 cm (22/23–23/24)
2014 & 2038 Atomic Maverick 105 CTi, 185 cm
2019 & 2024 Salomon Stance 102, 183 cm
2024 & 2035 Nordica Enforcer 94, 179 cm
2026 & 2038 Armada Declivity X 102, 180 cm
2032 & 2037 Kästle Paragon 101, 182 cm
2032 & 2040 Majesty Havoc 100 Ti, 188 cm
2034 & 2060 Peak 98 by Bode, 184 cm
2042 & 2062 Dynastar M-Pro 99, 186 cm (20/21–23/24)
2043 & 2089 Völkl M6 Mantra, 177 cm (21/22–23/24)
2053 & 2059 J Skis Fastforward, 181 cm
2066 & 2083 Kästle Paragon 107, 184 cm
2074 & 2076 Völkl M7 Mantra, 177 cm
2078 & 2131 Moment Countach 110, 188 cm
2078 & 2138 Black Crows Justis, 183 cm
2079 & 2089 Shaggy’s Mohawk 98, 186 cm
2085 & 2120 K2 Mindbender 99Ti, 184 cm
2111 & 2144 Völkl M7 Mantra, 184 cm
2114 & 2130 4FRNT MSP 99, 181 cm
2118 & 2128 ZAG Harfang 106, 186 cm
2138 & 2163 Blizzard Anomaly 94, 182 cm
2138 & 2172 Rossignol Sender 106 Ti+, 187 cm (22/23–23/24)
2161 & 2167 Armada Declivity X 108, 184 cm
2165 & 2186 Wagner Summit 97, 182 cm
2166 & 2237 Völkl Mantra 102, 184 cm
2178 & 2195 Völkl M6 Mantra, 184 cm (21/22–23/24)
2199 & 2229 Nordica Enforcer 99, 185 cm
2215 & 2231 Romp Oso 105, 188 cm
2220 & 2237 K2 Mindbender 108Ti, 186 cm
2258 & 2303 Wagner Summit 107, 186 cm
2273 & 2297 Nordica Enforcer 104, 185 cm
2281 & 2284 Blizzard Bonafide 97, 177 cm (20/21–23/24)
2326 & 2336 Nordica Enforcer 100, 186 cm (20/21–23/24)
2366 & 2370 4FRNT MSP 107, 187 cm
2534 & 2543 Heritage Lab FR110, 193 cm
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FULL REVIEW
We started testing the 185 cm Enforcer 104 about a year ago. Since then, several of us have put a lot of time on this ski, including A/B/C testing it against the previous Enforcer 104 Free and the new Enforcer 99. Here’s what we’ve found:
Moguls, Trees, & Tight Terrain
Luke Koppa (5’8”, 155 Ibs / 173 cm, 70 kg): One of the things I (and many others) loved about the original Enforcer 104 Free was how manageable it felt in tight terrain, given that it was also one of the more damp and stable skis in its class. So, one of my biggest questions going into this review was how similar the new Enforcer 104 would feel in that regard.
My answer is “very similar.” Not identical, but definitely in the same ballpark.
Considering all the other currently available ~105mm-wide all-mountain skis, the Enforcer 104 isn’t the easiest ski in tight, off-piste terrain, and it’s far from the most nimble. In today’s market, there are tons of skis that have much lower swing weights and/or more forgiving flex patterns that will let you get away with sloppier skiing in tricky mogul lines and the like.
However, the vast majority of those skis don’t offer the same level of stability or suspension as the Enforcer 104. And these days, a fairly heavy ski like the Enforcer 104 — and the ride quality provided by its mass — stands out more than ever.
So, with the perspective that the Enforcer 104 is one of the more damp and stable skis in its class, I think it’s actually pretty accessible.
It’s not that conducive to making tons of little last-minute adjustments when trying to zip through a mogul line as fast as possible; lighter skis are generally better for that approach. (Though, if you’re a very physically strong skier, you can definitely make quick work of bump lines on this ski.)
When skied with decent technique, the Enforcer 104 doesn’t feel like much of a burden in tight spots. Its sweet spot feels pretty large, allowing me to drive it hard through the shovels or ski it pretty centered while still feeling intuitive. It’ll let you know when you’re starting to flirt with the backseat, but especially in average to widely-spaced moguls, it doesn’t require me to be on my A-game 100% of the time.
When it comes to tight terrain, the Enforcer 104 really shines when the snow is less ideal. In that case, you get the benefits of its smooth suspension (especially relative to lighter, more agile skis), but you’re not on some beast of a ski that instantly punishes any little mistake you might make.
Groomers / On-Piste
Luke: The Enforcer 104 is a pretty good carver for what it is — a 104mm-wide ski designed to perform in just about all conditions and terrain.
I.e., this is far from a dedicated piste ski. Still, on non-icy conditions, it’s plenty fun to carve.
Looking at my Carv data, I tend to make my best turns on this ski between about 25–40 mph (40–64 kph) on slopes steeper than about 20°. More broadly, this isn’t a ski that feels super engaging at low speeds or on low-angle slopes, but it doesn’t require tons of speed or input from the skier to get on edge.
Once there, the Enforcer 104’s happy place seems to be what I’d call ‘medium’ to ‘medium-large’ turns (according to Carv, this has been anywhere from about 17 meters to about 23 meters). I can hit edge angles around 60° and max g forces around 2 g’s on groomers that are pretty grippy, but on steeper and/or more scraped-off slopes, I usually resort to more conservative, skidded turns. The more I plan on frequently lapping very firm groomers, the more I’d be inclined to opt for the Enforcer 94 or a more piste-oriented ski like the Nordica Steadfast 85 DC.
Powder & Soft Chop
Luke: During my first day on the Enforcer 104, I found myself at the top of Crested Butte Mountain Resort’s Peel couloir just after Ski Patrol had opened it, following over a foot (30+ cm) of fresh snow. Frankly, I wasn’t too psyched to be on this ski, but the Enforcer 104 handled it better than I expected.
In those conditions, I still had to ski slightly backseat to avoid submerging the Enforcer 104’s shovels, but the ski remained intuitive and maneuverable when doing so. Despite its minimally tapered tips and tails, the Enforcer 104 was pretty easy to pivot and slash through the deep snow, provided that I maintained at least some speed / momentum (it can feel sluggish in pow on flatter slopes or if you’re doing a lot of stopping and starting).
If my pow days involved a lot of wiggling through tight trees and lower-angle terrain, I’d definitely prefer something wider (and probably softer, more tapered, and more rockered). But, for a 104mm-wide all-mountain ski, the Enforcer 104 is plenty respectable on a pow day.
It’s even more impressive once the fresh snow has been tracked out, leaving you with generally soft conditions but a lot more variability in the surface and density of the snow. There, the Enforcer 104’s strong flex pattern and substantial construction provide a very stable ride, encouraging me to make bigger turns and jump off whatever I can find, knowing that the ski won’t quickly get sketchy during the following runout.
Plus, just like what we discussed in the Tight Terrain section, the Enforcer 104 is still pretty maneuverable and accessible. So, while it feels more composed than many lighter skis when skiing fast in chop, the Enforcer 104 doesn’t demand perfect technique or tons of input in order to feel intuitive.
Firm Chop & Crud
Luke: We’ve already touched on this a few times now, but again, the Enforcer 104’s suspension and stability really stand out in today’s market, where many all-mountain skis are much lighter. And that difference is probably most notable (and most appreciated) in rough, challenging conditions.
Now, there are still skis that are better choices if you’re most concerned with how stable and planted a ski will feel in cruddy snow (e.g., the All-Mountain Chargers section of our Winter Buyer’s Guide). Especially if you want to make Super-G-size turns in very variable snow, some of those skis will feel a bit less twitchy / more calm when doing so. But the Enforcer 104 offers a smoother ride quality and gets knocked around less in this sort of snow than most other alternatives in its class.
Playfulness
Luke: The Enforcer 104 doesn’t feel dramatically more or less playful than the prior Enforcer 104 Free, and I’d label both as fairly playful directional skis.
The new Enforcer 104 might be a bit more energetic / lively than the ski it replaced, but it’s not any quicker, nor is it softer. This is still a pretty strong and fairly heavy ski that responds best to a fairly traditional, forward stance — if you prioritize agility, energy, or overall freestyle performance, consider something like Nordica’s Unleashed 108.
That said, the Enforcer 104 does feel more maneuverable and forgiving than the Enforcer 99. So, just like the previous Enforcer 104 Free, I’d definitely recommend the Enforcer 104 if you want a ski that’s a bit more accessible and a touch more “playful” than the Enforcer 99.
Length, Mount Point, & is it a “Charger?”
Mark Danielson (6’2”, 205 lbs / 188 cm, 93 kg): I agree with everything Luke wrote above. As a bigger individual and someone who typically prefers big, heavy skis, I’d like to add that skiers looking for a ‘charger’ shouldn’t be quick to dismiss the Enforcer 104. But I think length and mount point could be factors in that decision.
The 185 cm version we tested isn’t drastically far from qualifying for the All-Mountain Chargers section of our Winter Buyer’s Guide. It shares several traits in common with the skis in that section: somewhat heavy weight, good suspension, and supportive stiffness with a solid overall feel. But as Luke described, it isn’t a very demanding, old-school charger. Its significantly rockered tip and tail, not-so-rearward mount point, and not-so-long 185 cm length all make the 185 cm Enforcer 104 more accessible and maneuverable than most of the skis in that section (even some that are shorter).
We haven’t tested the longer 191 cm version of the Enforcer 104, which has a stated weight of 2430 g per ski. But based on my experience with the 185 cm length, I believe that many skiers (including myself) would grant legitimate ‘charger’ status to that longer 191 cm length, even if its rocker profile and mount point might make it more manageable in tight spaces than other skis befitting that (subjective) ‘charger’ designation.
For context, I’m a big guy who likes long, classic ‘charger’ skis in wide open spaces. But in Crested Butte’s tight terrain and moguls, I’m relieved to be skiing the shorter 185 cm Enforcer 104 for its maneuverability. (And I also happen to prefer it mounted half a cm back from recommended.) However, as I alluded to above, I believe the 191 cm Enforcer 104 likely has a high enough top-end to satisfy me as a high-speed ski for not-so-deep days in the wide open terrain of Whistler, Mammoth, Palisades, Snowbird, Jackson Hole, etc.
Luke (5’8”, 155 Ibs / 173 cm, 70 kg): I’ll add that, as someone who tends to like all-mountain skis like this in the 180-188 cm range, the 185 cm Enforcer 104 felt like the right length for me. I.e., I don’t think most people will need to go for a shorter or longer size than what they’d usually pick. Still, I agree with Mark in that, if this ski’s suspension and stability are what intrigue you, you might be able to get away with a longer length and not end up with a super overbearing ski, especially if you spend more time in open terrain. And, personally, I never felt the need to move the bindings away from the recommended mount point (which is about -7.5 cm from true center).
Who’s It For?
Luke: I think the Enforcer 104 makes the most sense for advanced to expert directional skiers who value good suspension and high-speed composure, but who also frequently venture into tighter off-piste terrain.
And if you’re an intermediate skier who doesn’t spend a ton of time in really tight, challenging moguls, the Enforcer 104 still warrants a look, especially if you prefer smoother suspension over a super low swing weight.
As we’ve noted above, there are some outliers in today’s market that provide even smoother, more planted ride qualities and even calmer composure when skiing aggressively in rough snow. But there are far more skis out there that are less damp, less stable, and more agile than the Enforcer 104.
Bottom Line
The latest Enforcer 104 is a worthy successor to the previous Enforcer 104 Free. The new 104 provides a familiarly impressive blend of suspension and (relative) accessibility, and it offers predictable performance in a very wide range of conditions and terrain. There are many alternatives that are more agile, more forgiving, and/or more playful, but for those of us who prefer a more damp and stable setup, we’re glad that the Enforcer 104 exists.
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Flash Review: 24/25 Nordica Enforcer 104 vs. Enforcer 104 Free
Jonathan Ellsworth just spent a day A/B testing the new Enforcer 104 vs. the original Enforcer 104 Free, Here are his thoughts. And an ill-advised drinking game.
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I am glad that I picked up an additional E104Free to keep for when my current E104Free wears out.
I did the same, got a fresh backup to replace the current DD! The enforcer 104 free was a special ski. Curious what Blister would recommend as a comparable ski in a slightly narrower width(semi twin 85-100mm wide similar suspension and stiffness to slightly softer that is fun in bumps and still carves as well or better than the enf 104 free.)
Had the 186cm Enforcer 104 Free when it first came out for a season or so but found it wasn’t as stable or as precise as I wanted. Fun in the bumps and off piste but a little loose on piste and didn’t love higher speed turns. Skied a 21 Faction CT 2.0 in it’s place which cured those issues for me.
When I first flexed the new Enforcer 104 in a shop, I was surprised how much stiffer even the 179cm version was vs my old 186cm 104 Free. Then seeing the stats on the new 185cm 104 online and it’s measurements on Soothski, I thought I’d give it another try.
Floored by how much more damp, stable and powerful the new one is vs the old 104 Free.
The elimination of carbon, addition of rubber under foot, a thicker core and slightly reduced width metal sheets made a world of difference to this line. Quieter, stronger on edge, higher speed limit yet still pretty playful.
Wondering if the early release versions of the new 104 tested here weren’t as stiff as current production versions as the stiffness change and upgrade in stability was very noticeable on my 185cm pair.
Hmmm, I’m not sure, Greg. I doubt it, but I can’t say for certain that you have the story wrong. All I can tell you is that I’ve now spent several days directly A/B-ing the 104 Free to the new 104… and, well, you can read my Flash Review about that. And I’d be willing to wager that this subtle change is what Nordica was going for. So if some / a batch of later skis were made significantly stiffer, I’d call those the outlier. Will be curious to hear other folks weigh in here, and I’ll see what Nordica has to say, too.
The new 104 is a beast. Just skied it two days at Palisades.. Insanely easy to link hard carves on ANY surface….Super stable at speed , and much more precise than the FREE. If you like the loose tail on the FREE, you go that way, if you prefer a decidedly directional board you go with the new one. My son is 20, he loves the FREE , I’m an old charger, I love the new onw.
Fwiw, just watched the ski essentials video review on the new ski and while hand flexing both models next to each other, they are also saying it’s significantly stiffer than the 104 free.
On Soothski.com, it shows all the new 25 Enforcers are pretty similar in flex now vs the old 104 Free being noticeably softer than the narrower models in the previous Enforcer models. All other new Enforcers seemed to have stayed pretty similar to the old versions though.
Agree with most reviews saying the new 104 changed the most in the line and the other narrower skis changed less(especially 94) vs the old series.
I have read the Blister Flash review between the 104 Free and new 104 and would agree with all those findings and in the full review as well. Myself and others have just noticed a larger difference between them so that’s why I was wondering about your new(or maybe old) sets of review pairs if they might be outliers.
I’d be very surprised if an Enforcer 100 or old 94 customer wouldn’t be happy on the new versions but could imagine some 104 Free customers not loving the new 104 as it’s less playful and forgiving. Know of a few skiers that had to be on 191 104 Free to get their desired stability level that are now happily on a 185cm 104.