2019-2020 Moment Blister Pro / Wildcat

54 comments on “2019-2020 Moment Blister Pro / Wildcat”

1. How would you compare this to the line mordecai? It sounds very similar (assuming you move the mount point back a bit from the Eric’s Choice)

2. Just to be clear, does the 18-19 version get the semi-cap and lighter weight, or just for 19-20?

   • The 18/19 and 19/20 versions will share the same exact construction, just with different graphics.

     • Any thoughts at Blister on asking Moment if they can make next year’s Blister Pro with the old construction, previous full sidewall construction? Or get a bit of the “heft” back into the Blister Pro version another way?

3. For all the love of this ski around here… ( I bought the 190 tours specifically because of you guys and damn is it money ) How have you not reviewed the new wildcat 108 yet??? I want to order a set of these so bad as my resort ski but waiting for some feedback to see if this shape carries over well to a narrower width.

   • I have just a few corn runs on my 108s (not the tour 108s, but the newly released model), but I am very pleased. I have the first gen Blister Pros and Bibby tours, too. The 108 was immediately easy to ski and intuitive. I liked the skinnier waste on the corn, it made them feel a bit less cumbersome. They were just as confidence inspiring and stable. I am looking forward to more days and more variety on them. Set up with Shifts..

     • Thanks for the on-snow impressions!

   • I’ve skied 2 days on my wildcat 108s (non-tour, the regular ones). I also own a 18/19 wildcat, which I love. I’ve only skied spring days on the 108, so it’s hard to give a complete comparison, but so far it feels exactly as advertised–a nimbler version of the OG wildcat that feels a bit more at home, precise, and easier to maneuver when the snow isn’t deep. Would highly recommend if the OG wildcat suits your fancy.

   • Second the call for a WC108 review.. although I’m pretty sold already haha

   • Third call for WC108 review. Want to know how different they are to OG Bibby/Wildcat. Are they more maneuverable for day-to-day skiing or should I drop all the way down to some Masterblasters.

4. Did you play around with mount points? I have the 190’s and am a directional skier. Thanks!

   • Most people love the recommended -6 cm mount. Jibbier skiers go -5 or -4 sometimes. But you can drive the shovel plenty at -6 if you ask me..

     How tall / heavy are you?

5. Hmmm, so will it win another BestOf award this coming year….. :-)

6. Maybe the core will change for next season; Out with pine, in with ash?

7. When can we get a peek at next season’s Blister Pro graphics?

8. I think you guys are going to have to have a wildcat vs woodsman article at after you get some time on the woodsman. I am sure it is on your radar.

   • Thanks for the response. I’m 6’ 185lbs, I ski the Head A Stars in bounds and they have a similar mount point (they’re also a really similar ski, radius, widths, length and rocker start points). Was wondering about going back a bit because I am not a jibby skier. Love skiing fast and pushing the skis.

   • Yep.

9. this question is aimed mainly at Luke. Have you ever considered trying the 174cm version? I the same height and spent a few days on the 174 deathwish and had way more fun than i expected for a shorter ski.
   I was worried that 184 might be too much ski for me, but with the actual measured length being closer to 182, I even more interest in giving a go!

   • I think that depends on your experience level and the lengths of skis you’ve liked in the past. But for me, I have never been tempted to size down to the 174 (for reference, I tend to like skis in this class that are around 184-190 cm long). The Wildcat has a lot of rocker so it skis a bit shorter than you’d think based on its length. And if you’ll primarily be using it as a powder ski, I think you’d appreciate the extra length (and float) of the 184.

10. I have the Nordica E-100 from first year back 4-5 years ago in a 185 and the 2nd version Blister Pro in a 190. When I ski the Beavers and Montezuma at A Basin in 3-5 day old snow the E-100 gets pushed around a bit shovel/tip. The Blisters kill it but feel like overkill at 118 underfoot. Thoughts on wildcat 108 or something else 100-108. Wondering that if the new wildcat skis lighter the 108 version will feel like the E-100’s Been skiing since 1968 and the Blister is my all time favorite ski in powder/chop!!

11. Hit me up if you’re interested in a lightly used pair of blister pro 190s from 2017 (cy whistling graphic)

12. @Aaron

    I’m interested! Are you on TGR? If yes, PM me. Same username..

13. Jonathan, what would be the burliest, hardest charging wide all mtn ski for 2020? I am trying to replace the 191 Head Monster 108. I want something over 2600g/ski and stiff as a plank.

    • Before I answer, how wide are you looking to go?

14. 105-112mm underfoot. 25m-ish radius

    • Given your parameters (and staying within them) … I think Bredey (below) has given you some very good suggestions. But if you are serious about “stiff as a plank” (and just to be clear for various folks reading this, “stiff as a plank” is definitely not always a great characteristic in a ski), then you would want to go with the Folsom Hammer — I would keep the reverse camber design the more you want to use the thing in deep snow, and I would consider adding ~2 mm of camber underfoot if you care more about performance in very firm conditions. The Hammer is the only wider ski I’ve been on where the shovel stiffness (in particular) actually reminded me of the Monster 108 while skiing it. Sounds like a conversation with Mike McCabe at Folsom might be in order.

15. You don’t have many options that are 2600 g + in that width class.. unless you go for the longest lengths, i.e. 192 cm +

    My thoughts are:

    If you like / want to retain some quickness in a ski that long and like full rocker and skiing from a more neutral stance: 4frnt Devastator in 194 cm or the Folsom Primary (Hammer Edition) in 192 cm or 195 cm

    If you want a ski that prefers a more forward / driving stance the 192 cm Blizzard Cochise will be a good option too. Should be around 2500 g per ski.

    The Prior Husume should be there too weight and stiffness wise, but I’m unsure how to locate it regarding skiing stance..

    If you’re willing to go a bit wider, the longest lengths of the Völkl Confession, Blizzard Bodacious and ON3P Wrenegade 114 are heavy and stiff chargers as well, that ski best from a forward stance.

    Curious to hear what Jonathan thinks..

16. Never skied a head monster but if you are looking for a charger the Bodacious is a good pick.

    • True. But it’s wider than his 105-112 width range.

17. The more I think about it, 105-110mm is ideal. The Bodacious has the flex I’m looking for, but it’s a little too wide. I wont use it in powder, I use Wildcats in anything soft. I want a wide-ish all mtn ski for firm conditions, which was where the Monster 108 shined. Wren 108 was a good ski, but not enough edge grip and softer than I liked for firm snow. I will look into devastator and folsom hammer, but I liked the Monster for it’s (almost) full camber.

    I dont think they make skis like this anymore?

    • The Wren 108 TI has significantly better edge grip than the standard Wren 108 but it isn’t that much stiffer. Unless you have a trip to South America planned, it may be worth waiting for Blister to get a review out on it. You have plenty of time before next season starts.

      I got to ski it for half a day on Hood and liked it. Its shape is still soft snow biased and maybe not the best ski for skiing hardpack exclusively. I thought it was perfect for skiing mixed conditions. Think 3 inches over refrozen shit with windblown deeper pockets.

18. Yeah Hammer and Devastator are going to feel a lot more newschool to you. Less shin driving, more centered skiing. If you’d drive them too hard in very firm snow, I think they’d probably wash out on you. You’d have to stay more centered over the sidecut to get grip in when it’s firm. Not enough grip if you think the Wren 108 didn’t give you enough..

    Maybe you should check out a custom Praxis Freeride or the Praxis Rx with -10 mm. They fit the profile, long effective edge because of pretty long camber, tip rocker, little tail rocker, minimal taper and a big radius. Maybe mount back 1 or 2 cm from the recommended -9.

    Not sure which layup the listed weight is for, but I’d guess the 194 Freeride with the heavy layup and #4 or #5 (out of 5) flex would be 2500 – 2600 g. They’ll be able to give you a guestimate if you shoot them an email.

    They even have a sale on customs too right now. I think it’s 40% off..

    Or the cambered Hammer that Jonathan recommended sounds pretty chargy too.

19. I’m just going to keep my eye out for another 191 Monster 98 or 108 I guess. I can get another season out of my current pair, but I wanted to start gathering info. Thanks for all the info. I really thought that there would be some sort of replacement for those skis, maybe from Dynastar if not HEAD, but I guess not. Some of the reviews say the Atomic 107 ski is extremely fast, but then others say it’s middle of the road because it’s fairly light weight. What about the Nordica Enforcer Pro 110? The Monster 108 makes Wren 108/112 and Heavy Praxis Freerides feel like soft snow skis, and I feel like the Nordica Pro is like that too. I want a stiff plank for ripping firm crud as fast as possible, and long radius turn groomer zooming at race speeds. Basically a fat race ski.

    Where the hell is the Dynastar 105 Pro when I need it?

20. Hi Blister Members – Moment is having a Memorial Day Sale – Over Monday !!!! All skis $575 in stock – Jake was really helpful and is available on line to address questions. I grabbed some skis and am really really happy – Moments do not go on sale very often so check it out. Be sure to chat with whomever is online as they may surprise you with certain models that are available but not showing :)

    Cant wait for winter – slush and corn for now

    Guy

21. I love skiing pow in the trees on my 18/19 Bibby Pro 190s. Stiff enough to support me (I’m 6’5″, 225 lbs), but still incredibly maneuverable. They’re easy centered, on my heels or lightly driving the shovels — they’ve got a huge sweet spot.

    Velo – I’ve never tried Monster 108’s (I can’t find any) — but I’ve always lusted after a pair. I ski the 196 non-tapered Bodacious as my daily driver, and I love them on everything but ice — I find that I can carve the crap out of them on groomers or in chop — or slide/slarve turns with ease.

22. Jonathan,
    Hi there, I have been a skier and patroller for many years and am looking for 2 things, maybe impossible but here they are. One: looking for a powder ski to ski out west (Utah) and was thinking the 19/20 wildcat in the 190cm. The problem is I am 6-5 320lbs and like to ski fast. Am I going to crush this ski? the other ski I had in mind was the Nordica pro?
    Question 2: Looking for something to fly down the hill with race type stiffness in a medium width ski. Would the Head monster 88 in longest length work or possible the Moment commander 98 188cm. I bought a pair of Blizzard Bahama’s this year and they get really unstable after about 50mph and I actually crashed a few times. Looking for something stable, wider than a slalom ski that I can ski 12″ or less, crud, and spring mash potatoes around home in Minnesota. I am open to any suggestions for skis.
    Thanks, and sorry for the lengthy posting.
    Brian

    • Hi, Brian – I don’t know if you’d crush a 190 Wildcat, but I would be inclined to steer you toward a heavier ski. Some that might be worth considering: 192 cm ON3P Woodsman 116; 196 cm Folsom Rapture – with something close to the ‘Blister Hammer’ construction; 196 cm Praxis Protest in a burly construction. The 191 cm Nordica Enforcer Pro might also be a good choice – and might be the best ski of the group if you are more concerned about slow-speed maneuverability than high-speed stability.

      As for your 2nd question: I’d say that the Monster 88 is probably pretty close to ideal. And the Commander 98 is less stable than a Brahma. The Monster 88 in its longest length will be far more stable than both. Or, if you happen to be able to find a Monster 98 in a 184 or 191, take it. Or the previous version of the Monster 88 in the same lengths, don’t hesitate.

      I wouldn’t call either of the Monsters great (or even good) in 12 inches of any type of snow … but when it hasn’t snowed in a while (or forever), or if there are only a couple inches of crud or mash potatoes on the ground … they ought to do the job better than most skis out there.

      Final thought: it’s neither a skinnier carver nor a fatter pow ski, but the new Volkl Mantra 102 in a 191 could be a good ski to keep on your radar if / when you need something around 100mm underfoot.

23. Jonathan,

    Thanks for your input on the 190. Looking for some input on size. I am 5″10 220lb and would consider myself more on the playful side of the style spectrum. Due to my size, I am thinking the 190 would be the better fit even though the 184 is more on the playful side.

    For reference, my favorite ski has been The Metal (180) mounted with pivot 14s. I mainly ski A-Basin (Pallavicini / Steep Gullies), Breck (E/6 Chair), and Vail (Blue Sky / Back Bowls).

    Thanks for the input!

    • My strong instinct is to say 190. But then again, I would have *strongly* advised going with a 186 cm Metal, rather than the 180. And if you are getting along well with the 180 Metal … you might get along well with the 184 Blister Pro. Then again, the 180 Metal is a heavier ski than a 184 Blister Pro, and there is more reason to worry that you might find the 184 to be a bit too light / not as stable as you like. So … not the easiest call in the world. For Pally bumps, I bet you might prefer the 184 to the 190s. But outside of big bumps with deep troughs, I’d vote for the stability bump of the 190s.

      • Thanks, that lines up with what I was thinking.

        Not to through a wrench in this, but how would you compare the 190 Deathwish to the 190 Wildcat? My initial thoughts would be that the Deathwise would feel “looser” whereas the Wildcat would be more “locked-in?”

        • To add a bit more on my intended usage, these are going to be mounted up with the Shift and is primarily going to be used in the resort 70% of the time.

          Thanks

24. I bought the blister pro last year and geneqrly thought it was a great ski BUT I did have an issue with ripping out both a toe piece and a heel piece. After initially ripping out the toe piece (while heli skiing) I had them remounted 2cm back by a completely different shop. Skiing in Austria in March I had the misfortune of ripping a heel piece out at high speed on a face with some consequences. Given neither incident happened on firm snow I can only conclude that the core wood is simply too soft. Despite Moment being completely awesome about it and sending me a new pair of skis I just cannot trust the ski anymore.

    Has anyone else had similar issues?

25. Love the reviews . Would the wildcat 128 190cm be a option for a 6,2 230 skier ? Besides my touring skis and carving skis I currently use the Sgn 1184 and 2013 katana . Both in 191cm. Those are past their lifespan so have to do something for this season. Other options (so far ) is the volkl revolt 121 , black ops 118 and sgn tunnelvisjon 193cm . Ski in all conditions and mostly offpiste.
    Thanks

26. Hi Jonathon,

    Another long winded length question for you. Brief history of my ski carrier as it probably pertains. Life long die hard skier grew up skiing bumps in the Midwest. Moved to CO (A-Basin) and Salt Lake City (Snowbird-Alta) to ski (avoided bumps out west) for 15 years, was out there when fat powder skis were born, but moved back to Minnesota in 2002 right before rocker came about. I’ve continued to ski moguls for something to do in MN (mainly stay in shape) but not really my cup of tea anymore. Long story short I’m at a place where I will be able to start spending a lot of time traveling to the old stomping grounds every winter…talking multiple trips every month and just really looking for advise on length. 48 years old 5’10 160 pounds. Classify my skiing as an expert, charging and playful. My heart is saying the 190, but the largest width I ever skied was the original K2 AK launcher 190 at somewhere around 80mm. Concerned the 190 may be to much ski not being a every day skier anymore. Everything I read steers me toward the 184, but will that feel to short for me having never skied a rocker ski? I like to haul ass when possible. Very excited to be getting back into skiing in a big way and very excited to try this ski after reading all your reviews.

    Just discovered Blister recently and all I say is you guys kick ass! Could of used a site like this back in the day!!

27. Can anyone confirm what year Moment changed the Blister pro’s construction to make it lighter? You announce the changes in this 2019-2020 review but I’ve heard that it happened in 2018 and that the 2017-2018 model year started with the heavier ones and then they changed it sometime in 2018 so some of the same top sheets are different skis. I called Moment and they couldn’t remember when the change happened so I don’t know if a pair of 2017-2018 that I’m considering buying are OG or “Wildcat”.

28. Hey guys – I’m 6 ft 1 inch and about 185 (no gear). I had a pair of kastle fx95s (non-HP) in 189 length. Great suspension and great on groomers but was too much ski for me and couldn’t handle them well in tighter spots like trees particularly with deeper snow. Also pretty rough to handle in powder in bowls – just too fatiguing.

    I now have kastle fx96 in 180 and Dps 100rp (alchemist) in 184. I love the shorter length of these skis compared to the 189 kastle and the lower weight and in general have found around 180 to be a good length in most skis (love the new enforcer 94 in 179) – really value maneuverability and lighter weight.

    Question is whether I’m making a mistake going with the 184 in this ski. Would use as a deep powder ski/all mountain ski when there’s snow to be found – like Jackson or vail where you can still find 1-2 feet in trees or getting dumped on. I would think 184 is the right size but frankly haven’t been on a ski this wide. I feel like the 190 will be a little too long. Any thoughts on sizing?

    • Hey Matt

      Im 6’0 220 and bought the 184 originally and realized that it wasn’t quite enough ski for me. Not considering myself an “expert skier” I think the 190 cm version of the Wildcat is a very easy ski to ski and it definitely skis shorter. I got 7 days on the 190 before the shutdown and have never had so much fun on a ski. I had so much fun that I bought this years 108 and then Fasa talked me into the Chipotle Banana in the 193.

      I don’t think you’d have a bad time on either the 184 or the 190 from last year… But with this years construction putting a bit more dampness/weight in the build. The 184 could fit be the ticket.

      I’m thinking if you can find the lighter build go 190 but if you’re going OG or this years snag a 184.

29. How do they feel mounted 1 or 2 cm in front of the line?

30. I love the discussion about the playfulness. I’ve been skiing the 11/12 version for the last 8 years. And thats just it, the playful shape together with a really stiff construction makes the ski just amazing. The only issue is the lack of surfiness in pow. I’ve been looking at gopro-footage from skiing in moderately deep pow and my shovels are not floating at all. Its never been a problem with them diving but they do not float. Im neither a aggressive skier or that heavy but still its easy to push the shovels down under the surface. Im skiing the 190 and I weigh in at about 80kg and 188cm tall.

31. Hey Jonathan, is there a ski that’s exactly like the old 184 Bibby, just with more float? I’m 6’0”, 190lb, and I mostly love the old Bibby, how versatile and stable it is, but it doesn’t float well enough for me. Last year we got 4’ of light snow in Tahoe (literally, small children disappeared into snow holes) on the day that lifts shut down and I had the 184 Bibby, and it actually was kind of a crap day because only the lower angle terrain opened up and I just got stuck repeatedly, the tips would dive and bury themselves under 100lb of snow, regardless of how much I tried to lean back or gather speed. I’d noticed similar behavior before in deep light tree snow where I actually preferred the float of my 186 J Skis Metal (which are narrower underfoot). On any snow that’s more substantial/less light, though, even if super deep, I love the 184 Bibby, they float great and offer stability and maneuverability better than anything else I have.

    So basically I want the old 184 Bibby, but with much, much more float in light, deep snow, and no tip dive. No more or less stability, I never needed more speed (if anything I’d want less top end speed, especially on firm snow where I end up skidding my way down because I don’t want to reach either the speed or edge angles I’d need to carve the 184 Bibby) but I wouldn’t want to lose any of the ability to mob through deep snow and just have the ski absorb the chop for me.

    I also don’t want anything playful in the sense of being more jibby than the 184 Bibby, I made the mistake of trying the original J Skis Friend in 180 (too short) and I hated how I’d try to plow through a small, soft bump and instead they’d launch me into the stratosphere.

    Thank you! Love the site as always.

    • Just realized I should clarify that I like to be able to drive my shovels, especially in deep snow. The 184 Bibby is great for that in substantial/not-light snow but I can’t get on the shovels at all in lighter deep snow without burying my tips and face-planting, which sucks because skiing them backseat does not feel good at all.

      • The 190…

32. Hey Blister + Blister Community,

    First off, Blister you are the bomb. I procrastinate my job by reading reviews for skis I’ll never buy. Helps me through the day!

    I’m looking for a ski recommendation.

    I (male, 5’8, 170 lbs, skiing Wasatch) ride the 184 cm 18-19 Bibby as a dedicated pow ski and absolutely love it. Combination of agility and playfulness with stability at speed is impeccable.

    My everyday ski has been Kestle FX 94 from a couple years back and I like it less and less every time I ski it. On days when I’m not on the Bibby I’m skiing trees and bumps, and the stiff straight trail on the FX 94 is the killing me. It’s great on hard snow and I can drive the shovels hard, but that’s generally not how I want to be spending my ski days.

    I’m looking for a replacement everyday ski that will mimic the Bibby/Wildcat’s playfulness and stability. I’m not the hardest charger blasting through crud all day but I do want something I can open up and ride on mixed snow when the feeling strikes. I also want to be able to jib around the mountain. I’m not throwing any crazy tricks, but I’m looking for something with pop that feels natural in the air.

    Should I be looking at the old PB&J / new Wildcat 101? Should I be looking somewhere else? No full review on either skis makes me hesitant, the rocker profile on both of those seems aggressive. Also hesitant b/c I can’t demo before buying the 101s.

    Also, do we think a review is coming soon on those bad boys?

    Any recommendations would be great!