2019-2020 ON3P Woodsman 108

Ski: 2019-2020 ON3P Woodsman 108, 187 cm

Available Lengths: 177, 182, 187, 192 cm

Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length: 187.3 cm

Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2232 & 2244 grams

Stated Dimensions: 137-108-127 mm

Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 138.0-108.9-127.3 mm

Stated Sidecut Radius (187 cm): 23.8 meters

Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 78 mm / 40 mm

Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: ~5 mm

Core: Bamboo + Carbon Stringers + Fiberglass Laminate

Base: 1.8 mm Sintered Durasurf 4001

Factory Recommended Mount Point: -6.35 cm from center; 87.3 cm from tail

Boots / Bindings: HEAD Raptor 140 RS / Tyrolia AAAttack2 13

Test Locations: Deplar Farm, Iceland

Days Skied: 2

Jonathan Ellsworth reviews the ON3P Woodsman 108 for Blister
ON3P Woodsman 108
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Review Navigation:  Specs //  First Look //  Bottom Line //  Rocker Pics

Intro

The new ON3P Woodsman series has received a lot of buzz, and with good reason.

Previously, there were was a big decision and debate whether to go with a ski from ON3P’s very directional Wrenegade series, or to opt for something from their much more freestyle-oriented Kartel / Jeffrey series. (For the 19/20 season, the Kartel series is reverting back to its original “Jeffrey” name, but the skis are unchanged.)

And lo, there was hand wringing galore from concerned skiers about whether they should mount Wrenegades forward of their recommended lines, or Kartel / Jeffrey skis behind the recommended line. There were also folks who weren’t sure about the long sidecut radii of the Wrenegade series, or the fully twinned tips and tails of the Jeffrey skis.

What was an ON3P fan to do?

There was clearly room for something between the Wrens and the Jeffreys, and that led to the creation of the Woodsman series.

(You can check out our conversation with ON3P’s founder and CEO, Scott Andrus, about the new Woodsman lineup on our GEAR:30 podcast.)

I just got back from Deplar Farm in Iceland where I was able to get a few first days on the Woodsman 108, and Blister members can read my Flash Review to get my initial impressions. But we’ll take a closer look here at the Woodsman 108, see how it compares to ON3P’s other 108mm-wide skis, and how it compares to the rest of the market.

What ON3P says about the Woodsman 108

“New for 2020 and two years in the making, we’re proud to introduce our newest line: the Woodsman Series. Featuring three waist widths, Bi-Radius sidecut, and modified Freeride Rocker, they are a modern directional semi-twin that remain stable at speed while allowing increased tail release to aid maneuverability in tight, technical terrain. Built to take a beating, all of our skis feature full length carbon fiber stringers, 100% bamboo cores, and UHMW sidewalls alongside the thickest bases & edges money can buy.

The Woodsman 108 is an aggressive yet agile offering that is the perfect blend for directional skiers who want equal parts muscle, float, and quickness in their all mountain pursuits. As comfortable in a pow slash as it is a high speed slalom turn, it is a one ski quiver that is as agreeable as it is apt – real skis, for real skiing, on real mountains.”

First, shoutout to Tanner Hall for that last line.

Second, my initial advice is that I wouldn’t read too much into that part about making “true slalom turns” on the Woodsman 108 — though I guess that could just be seen as a challenge?

But all in all, ON3P’s description seems sensible and smart. The Woodsman 108 is supposedly a “directional semi-twin,” which, judging by its shape and rocker profile, it seems to be. It’s also supposedly “aggressive yet agile” and “equal parts muscle, float, and quickness,” which, based on its flex pattern, weight, rocker profile, and mount point, it also seems to be. And it’s also supposed to serve as a 1-ski quiver for firm and soft snow, which is a claim made about many other 108mm-wide skis.

Shape / Rocker Profile

As you’d expect, the shape of the Woodsman 108 looks a bit like a hybrid between the Wrenegade 108 and Jeffrey 108. The Woodsman 108 has a bit more tip and tail taper than the Wrenegade 108 (it’s more noticeable in the tail than the tip), and maybe a touch less tip and tail taper than the Jeffrey 108.

Compared to the rest of the market, the Woodsman 108’s shape seems pretty moderate — it doesn’t stand out much in terms of having a ton or too little taper.

The Woodsman 108’s rocker profile also looks like a mix of the Wrenegade 108 and Jeffrey 108. It has what could be considered as ON3P’s signature tip rocker line — a very deep rocker line with a lot of tip splay. The Woodsman 108’s tip rocker line looks almost identical to both the Wren 108 and Jeffrey 108 and, like those skis, it stands out in the market in terms of how deep and how splayed out its tip is.

The tail of the Woodsman 108 is where it stands out from ON3P’s other 108mm-wide skis. The Woodsman 108’s tail rocker line is a tiny bit deeper than the Wren 108’s, and the Woodsman 108’s tail rises up more abruptly / quickly than the Wren 108’s tail rocker line, which is lower and more subtle. Compared to the Jeffrey 108, the Woodsman 108’s tail rocker line is shallower and has way less tail splay.

For reference, here are our measured tip and tail splay numbers for the three skis:

  • ON3P Woodsman 108, 187 cm: 78 mm / 40 mm
  • ON3P Wrenegade 108, 189 cm: 83 mm / 31 mm
  • ON3P Jeffrey 108, 186 cm: 80 mm / 68 mm

Flex Pattern

Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Woodsman 108:

Tips: 8
Shovels: 8-9
In Front of Toe Piece: 9-10
Underfoot: 10
Behind the Heel Piece: 10-9.5
Tails: 9-8

Hand-flexing the 187 cm Woodsman 108 against the 184 cm and 189 cm Wrenegade 108, all three skis feel extremely similar. They’re all quite strong overall, with tips and tails that are a bit softer than the middle, but still pretty strong compared to many other skis in this class. The Woodsman 108 feels maybe a touch softer at the very ends of the tails, but the difference is very subtle.

Compared to most skis in its class, the Woodsman 108 is a bit stiffer in the tips and tails, though it’s not quite as burly as a few skis, like the Prior Husume, Fischer Ranger 107Ti, and Folsom Hammer.

Sidecut Radius

As ON3P founder / CEO, Scott Andrus, mentioned, this is one of the key differences between the Woodsman 108, Wrenegade 108, and Jeffrey 108.

For reference, here are the stated sidecut radii numbers for those skis:

  • ON3P Woodsman 108, 187 cm: 23.8 meters
  • ON3P Wrenegade 108, 189 cm: 27.5 meters
  • ON3P Wrenegade 108, 184 cm: 26.8 meters
  • ON3P Jeffrey 108, 186 cm: 22.2 meters

We don’t put much stock into stated sidecut radii numbers, but it is worth highlighting that the Woodsman 108 does fall between the Wren 108 and Jeffrey 108 when it comes to its sidecut radius. It’s also worth noting that, like the Wren 108, the Woodsman 108 has a bi-radius sidecut (one radius in front, one in back). The Jeffrey 108 uses what ON3P calls a “Hybrid” sidecut, which means it uses an elliptical sidecut in the front (straighter in the middle and tighter as you move to the tip) and a standard radius in the back.

The Woodsman 108’s sidecut radius is still a bit longer than average, but its sidecut radius doesn’t stand out as much as the Wren 108’s, which is quite long.

Mount Point

With a recommended mount point of around -6.5 cm from center, the Woodsman 108 falls between more freestyle-oriented skis like the Jeffrey 108, Prior Northwest 110, and Armada ARV 106Ti, and more directional skis like the Wrenegade 108, Prior Husume, Blizzard Cochise, etc.

Many of our reviewers — directional and more playful skiers alike — have come to like many skis with mount points around -6 cm, and this mount point makes good sense given the Woodsman’s position between the very playful Jeffrey 108 and the very directional Wrenegade 108.

Weight

At around 2240 grams per ski for the 187 cm length, the Woodsman 108 is pretty heavy. Not outrageously heavy, but heavier than most.

It comes as little surprise that the Woodsman 108 comes in at a very similar weight compared to the Wrenegade 108 and Jeffrey 108, given that they share the same construction and similar dimensions.

For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try to keep things apples-to-apples.

1605 & 1630 Line Vision 108, 183 cm (19/20)
1642 & 1651 Renoun Citadel 106, 185 cm, (18/19)
1806 & 1862 Armada Tracer 108, 180 cm (19/20)
1828 & 1842 Elan Ripstick 106 Black Edition, 188 cm (19/20)
1848 & 1903 Line Sick Day 104, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
1849 & 1922 Elan Ripstick 106, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
1875 & 1881 Line Sir Francis Bacon, 184 cm (19/20)
1913 & 1943 Sego Condor Ti, 187 cm (18/19)
1941 & 1994 Faction Candide 3.0, 186 cm (18/19)
1950 & 1977 Blizzard Rustler 10, 188 cm (17/18–18/19)
1980 & 2019 Moment Deathwish, 184 cm (15/16–19/20)
1996 & 2012 Dynastar Legend X106, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
2005 & 2035 Liberty Origin 106, 187 cm (19/20)
2010 & 2018 J Skis Vacation, 186 cm (18/19)
2013 & 2013 Moment Commander 108, 188 cm (18/19)
2018 & 2045 RMU North Shore 108, 185 cm (18/19–19/20)
2022 & 2047 Faction Dictator 3.0, 186 cm (17/18–18/19)
2026 & 2056 Black Diamond Boundary Pro 107, 184 cm (17/18–18/19)
2030 & 2039 Rossignol Soul 7 HD, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
2036 & 2064 Salomon QST 106, 188 cm (18/19)
2042 & 2105 Line Mordecai, 186 cm (16/17–18/19)
2046 & 2120 Black Crows Corvus, 188 cm (18/19–19/20)
2080 & 2089 Sego Big Horn 106, 187 cm (16/17–18/19)
2096 & 2100 Salomon QST 106, 181 cm (19/20)
2097 & 2113 DPS Alchemist Wailer 106, 189 cm (19/20)
2112 & 2125 4FRNT MSP 107, 187 cm (18/19–19/20)
2113 & 2121 Moment Meridian 107, 187 cm (16/17–19/20)
2113 & 2140 Armada ARV 106, 188 cm (18/19–19/20)
2133 & 2134 Faction Prodigy 3.0, 183 cm (18/19–19/20)
2143 & 2194 ON3P Wrenegade 108, 184 cm (18/19)
2144 & 2153 K2 Marksman, 184 cm (16/17–19/20)
2165 & 2211 K2 Mindbender 108Ti, 186 cm (19/20)
2165 & 2219 Icelantic Nomad 105, 191 cm (19/20)
2182 & 2218 Nordica Enforcer 110, 185 cm (17/18–19/20)
2188 & 2190 Prior Northwest 110, 190 cm (19/20)
2190 & 2268 Armada ARV 106Ti LTD, 188 cm (18/19–19/20)
2221 & 2245 ON3P Jeffrey 108, 186 cm (18/19)
2232 & 2244 ON3P Woodsman 108, 187 cm (19/20)
2233 & 2255 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free, 186 cm (19/20)
2241 & 2295 4FRNT Devastator, 184 cm (14/15–18/19)
2250 & 2307 Argent Badger, 184 cm (19/20)
2283 & 2290 ON3P Wrenegade 108, 189 cm (18/19)
2312 & 2386 Prior Husume, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
2318 & 2341 J Skis The Metal, 186 cm (16/17–18/19)
2371 & 2374 Folsom Primary — Hammer Edition, 188 cm (18/19–19/20)
2376 & 2393 Blizzard Cochise, 185 cm (15/16–19/20)

Bottom Line (For Now)

As you can see, the specs, at least, on the ON3P Woodsman 108 split the difference between their Jeffrey 108 and Wrenegade 108 in pretty much every regard. It’s not as directional and straight as the Wren 108, nor as symmetrical and freestyle-oriented as the Jeffrey 108.

But the big question now is whether the on-snow performance and handling of the Woodsman 108 also feels like a direct split between the Wren 108 and the Jeffrey 108, or whether it skews more toward one of those skis than the other.

Blister Members can check out our Flash Review linked below for our initial impressions, and then stay tuned for our full review.

Flash Review

Blister Members can now check out our Flash Review of the Woodsman 108 for our initial impressions. Become a Blister member now to check out this and all of our Flash Reviews, plus get exclusive deals and discounts on skis, and personalized gear recommendations from us.

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9 comments on “2019-2020 ON3P Woodsman 108”

  1. This reminds me of the Faty-pus P-dubya which is my current go to. If it’s anything like that then this is going to be an amazing ski!

    • I have last years Kartel 108. I love it, but it catches me slippin’ when i still try to drive the tips, a habit i keep reverting to. I keep thinking that setting the bindings back a bit would make the ski more my style; but the again that would not be how the ski was designed. Sounds like the Woodman would be more of the ski for me.

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