2019-2020 Moment Commander 118

Ski: 2019-2020 Moment Commander 118, 188 cm

Available Lengths: 178, 188, 194 cm

Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length: 186.7 cm

Stated Weight per Ski: 2290 grams

Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2290 & 2293 grams

Stated Dimensions: 138-118-129 mm

Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 138.7-117.5-130.7 mm

Stated Sidecut Radius (188 cm): 31.0 meters

Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 64 mm / 31 mm

Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: 7-8 mm

Core: aspen/ash + titanal (2-layers) + carbon stringers + fiberglass laminate

Base: sintered 4001 Durasurf

Factory Recommended Mount Point: -8.05 cm from center; 85.3 cm from tail

Blister reviews the Moment Commander 118
Moment Commander 118
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Review Navigation:  Specs //  First Look //  Bottom Line //  Rocker Pics

Intro

The Commander series is Moment’s line of directional chargers, and this year we’ll be getting on the widest metal-laminate ski in the series, the Commander 118 (the wider Commander 124 ditches the metal). Like the Commander 98 & Commander 108, the Commander 118 has two sheets of titanal slapped above and below its core, and the Commander 118 is unequivocally designed to charge.

We’ll be getting this ski on snow as soon as possible, but in the meantime, let’s see just how big and bad this ski is.

What Moment says about the Commander 118

“Where once there was the Governor now there lies the Commander 118. There may be Govy blood in its veins but it’s a whole new beast entirely. It’s damper, it’s stiffer and it shows. With two sheets of metal and a 30m plus turning radius, this is not for the faint of heart. For those who don’t so much ski the mountain, as they do assault it, this ski must be fed a strict diet of crud, chop and anything else that may find itself in your way. Puckered straight lines and sketchy run outs galore. Feed the beast.”

Key points:

(1) The Commander 118 effectively replaces the old Moment Governor, which was originally the directional version of the old Moment Bibby. The Commander 118 is reportedly even more damp and stiffer than the Governor.

(2) Moment is definitely marketing the Commander 118 as a charger. While they highlight the versatility and maneuverability of the Commander 98 & 108, they’re pretty clear about the intent of the Commander 118 — it’s supposed to “assault” the mountain and do so in any conditions. (Though, it’s interesting that they don’t mention powder anywhere in this description.)

Shape / Rocker Profile

The Commander 118’s shape and rocker profile are extremely similar to the 19/20 Commander 108. I’d call its tip taper somewhat conservative for a modern, 118mm-wide ski; it has more tip taper than something like the Volkl Confession, but less than skis like the Dynastar Menace Proto, DPS Foundation Koala 119, and Rossignol Super 7 RD. The Commander 118’s tail taper extends slightly farther toward the middle of the ski than its tip taper — it has more tail taper than the Confession and Head Kore 117, but less than the Super 7 RD and Line Sick Day 114. Compared to the old Moment Governor, the Commander 118 has notably less tip taper, and a similarly tapered tail.

The Commander 118’s rocker profile is also fairly conservative by today’s standards. Its tip rocker line is almost identical to the 19/20 Commander 108’s; while the Commander 108’s tip rocker line is pretty deep for a 108mm-wide directional ski, that same tip rocker profile looks a bit less dramatic on a 118mm-wide ski. The Commander 118 has more tip rocker than the Kore 117 and Confession, but less than the K2 Mindbender 116C, Icelantic Nomad 115, and Sick Day 114, and many more playful skis like the Liberty Origin Pro, Volkl Revolt 121, and K2 Catamaran.

While the Commander 118’s tip rocker line isn’t far off from the Moment Wildcat, the Commander 118’s tail rocker profile is very different. The Commander 118’s tail rocker line is much, much shallower than its tip rocker line, and its tail is much lower than its tip. Overall, the Commander 118’s tail rocker looks pretty similar to the Super 7 RD, Kore 117, and Menace Proto. The Commander 118’s rocker profile is very similar to the old Moment Governor’s.

Finally, it’s worth noting that the Commander 118 has a lot of camber for a ski this wide. At around 7-8 mm of camber underfoot, the Commander 118 has more camber than most of the pow skis in our 19/20 Winter Buyer’s Guide, and even more than the Commander 98 & Commander 108.

Flex Pattern

Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Commander 118:

Tips: 8-8.5
Shovels: 9
In Front of Toe Piece: 9-10
Underfoot: 10
Behind the Heel Piece: 10-9
Tails: 9-8

This is a very strong ski. There are many skis that are similarly strong in the middle of the ski, but much fewer that are as strong at the tips and tails. The Commander 118 is a bit stiffer overall vs. the 18/19 Commander 108 (most notably at the ends) and has a very similar flex pattern to the 19/20 Commander 108.

Compared to the Head Kore 117 and Faction Dictator 4.0, the Commander 118 is pretty similar overall, but a bit softer at the tails.

Compared to the Moment Wildcat, the Commander 118 is similarly stiff around the bindings but notably stiffer at the tips, shovels, and tails.

Compared to the old Moment Governor, the Commander 118 is a bit stiffer in the tips and similar in the middle and tail.

The Commander 118’s flex pattern is not too far off from the Prior Husume and Prior CBC, though the Commander 118 isn’t quite as stiff at the very ends vs. those very strong skis from Prior.

Sidecut Radius

For those asking how the Commander 118 differs from the Commander 108, this is one key area. The 188 cm Commander 108 has a stated sidecut radius of 21 meters, while the 188 cm Commander 118’s stated sidecut radius is 30 meters. We’re always wary of stated sidecut radii numbers, but that’s a big enough difference that it’s definitely worth highlighting. We found that you could make a pretty wide range of turn shapes on the Commander 108, but we expect the 118 to have a stronger preference for going straight and fast.

Mount Point

While the Commander 118 is definitely a directional ski, its mount point of around -8 cm from center is notably more progressive / forward than other directional skis like the Kore 117, Dictator 4.0, and Confession. It’s not as far forward as freestyle-oriented skis like the Moment Wildcat, Volkl Revolt 121, and Rossignol Black Ops 118, but based on our time on the Commander 98 & 108 (which share basically identical mount points), we imagine that you might not have to be over the shovels of the Commander 118 all the time.

Weight

Unlike the first-gen Commanders (the 19/20 versions got a bit heavier), the Commander 118 is not some super light ski. At around 2290 grams per ski for the 188 cm, the Commander 118 sits on the heavier end of the spectrum; it’s lighter than the DPS Koala F119, Confession, and Nordica Enforcer Free 115, but heavier than the Moment Wildcat, K2 Mindbender 116C, Rossignol Super 7 RD, Head Kore 117, and the old 186 cm Moment Governor.

This weight makes many of us at Blister really happy. Because if Moment is claiming that the Commander 118 is supposed to “assault the mountain,” we think it makes a whole lot of sense to pair its stiff flex pattern and fairly straight shape with a pretty heavy layup.

For reference, here are a number of our measured weights (per ski in grams) for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try to keep things apples-to-apples.

1710 & 1744 Atomic Bent Chetler 120, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
1808 & 1809 Line Pescado, 180 cm (17/18–19/20)
1910 & 1941 Scott Scrapper 115, 189 cm (17/18–18/19)
1931 & 1959 Volkl BMT 122, 186 cm (17/18–18/19)
2013 & 2099 Moment Wildcat / Blister Pro, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
2019 & 2051 K2 Mindbender 116C, 186 cm (19/20)
2024 & 2031 Line Outline, 186 cm (19/20)
2034 & 2052 Blizzard Rustler 11, 188 cm (17/18–19/20)
2043 & 2046 4FRNT Inthayne, 188 cm (18/19-19/20)
2102 & 2137 Line Sick Day 114, 190 cm (17/18–19/20)
2105 & 2185 Head Kore 117 (19/20)
2126 & 2173 Rossignol Super 7 RD, 190 cm (17/18–19/20)
2173 & 2204 4FRNT Renegade, 191 cm (19/20)
2174 & 2187 Moment Wildcat / Blister Pro, 190 cm (18/19–19/20)
2130 & 2213 Faction Candide 4.0, 188 cm (19/20)
2177 & 2180 Moment Commander 108, 188 cm (19/20)
2183 & 2190 Black Crows Anima, 188.4 cm (17/18–19/20)
2196 & 2199 Icelantic Nomad 115, 191 cm (17/18–18/19)
2199 & 2219 Moment Governor, 186 cm (14/15–17/18)
2220 & 2252 Faction Prodigy 4.0, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
2212 & 2215 Armada ARV 116 JJ, 185 cm (17/18–19/20)
2222 & 2278 Prior CBC, 184 cm (17/18–19/20)
2228 & 2231 Blizzard Spur, 192 cm (17/18–19/20)
2230 & 2250 Black Diamond Boundary Pro 115, 185 cm (17/18–19/20)
2237 & 2315 Salomon QST 118, 192 cm (19/20)
2240 & 2250 Volkl Revolt 121, 184 cm (19/20)
2246 & 2265 Fischer Ranger 115 FR, 188 cm (17/18–18/19)
2290 & 2293 Moment Commander 118, 188 cm (19/20)
2296 & 2309 Liberty Origin Pro, 192 cm (17/18–19/20)
2297 & 2317 K2 Catamaran, 184 cm (17/18–19/20)
2341 & 2357 Dynastar PR-OTO Factory, 189 cm (18/19–19/20)
2343 & 2360 J Skis Friend, 189 cm (18/19)
2346 & 2351 Nordica Enforcer Free 115, 191 cm (17/18–19/20)
2370 & 2382 Volkl Confession, 193 cm (17/18–19/20)
2382 & 2395 ON3P Billy Goat, 184 cm (17/18–18/19)
2408 & 2421 ON3P Jeffrey 116, 186 cm (17/18–19/20)
2438 & 2480 DPS Foundation Koala 119, 189 cm (19/20)
2438 & 2492 Rossignol Black Ops 118, 186 cm (16/17–19/20)
2490 & 2529 K2 Catamaran, 191 cm (17/18–19/20)

Some Questions / Things We’re Curious About

(1) We found the Commander 98 & 108 to be pretty accessible skis, but will the Commander 118 be something different, given its straighter shape, larger size, and heftier weight?

(2) What kind of turn shapes will the Commander 118 be capable of doing? Can it only go straight or sideways, or could you bend it into some tighter carved turns?

(3) The Commander 118 doesn’t have a ton of tip rocker and it’s pretty stiff, so how will it compare to its competition when it comes to float in super deep snow?

(4) On that note, should we think of the Commander 118 as a pow ski, or more as a wider all-mountain ski — especially given Moment’s lack of talk about how well it’s supposed to float through pow?

(5) The Commander 98 & 108 are pretty playful for directional, metal-laminate skis, but will the Commander 118 feel pretty different in this regard?

(6) The Commander 118 effectively replaces the Moment Governor, a ski many of us really liked. So what are the key differences between the two?

(7) How will the Commander 118 compare to similarly stiff skis like the Head Kore 117, Volkl Confession, DPS Koala F119? What about more playful skis like the Moment Wildcat, Faction Candide 4.0, and Liberty Origin Pro? Or just the rest of the pow skis in our 19/20 Winter Buyer’s Guide?

Bottom Line (For Now)

Moment is certainly talking a big game about the hard-charging capabilities of the Commander 118, and based on its specs, that hype actually seems like it could be warranted. This is a big, stiff, straight, and fairly heavy ski, and we’ll be getting it on snow ASAP to, in Moment’s words, “feed the beast.”

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5 comments on “2019-2020 Moment Commander 118”

  1. In addition to the larger radius, it looks like the Commander 118 has more effective edge than the Commander 108. In the 188 lengths, its 1470mm vs 1445mm. Wonder which taper point is different, tail or tip? Or both have been pushed out?

  2. The weight listed here for the commander 108 differs quite a bit from that in the commander 108 review (18/19). Did they make it heavier this year?

    • Yep, as noted in the “Weight” section, the Commanders got a bit heavier this year (they also now have slightly higher tips and lower tails). We’ll be spending more time on the 19/20 Commander 98 & 108 this year and will be posting new reviews of each. For reference, our measured weights per ski for the 178 cm 19/20 Commander 98 are 1928 & 1933 grams.

  3. Going to be too much for me but interested to read the review of these. Am assuming Jonathan will be chomping at the bit to get on them? Had not realised the 124 has no titanal, will be keen to hear how that skis. Going to be getting on it anytime soon?

    • Yep, Jonathan, Eric Freson, and Paul Forward are all excited about this ski and we should be getting all of them on it at some point this season. We don’t yet have the Commander 124 in hand, but we’re hoping to get that ski to Paul this year (and/or maybe the Comi…).

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