Ski: 2020-2021 Moment Chipotle Banana, 193 cm
Available Lengths: 186, 193 cm
Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length (straight-tape pull): 190 cm
Stated Weight per Ski: 2345 grams
Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2323 & 2352 grams
Stated Dimensions: 139-122-134 mm
Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 140-122-134 mm
Stated Sidecut Radius (193 cm): 35.5 meters
Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 71 mm / 71 mm
Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: 0 mm
Core: Aspen/Ash + Carbon Stringers + Fiberglass Laminate
Base: Sintered 4001 Durasurf
Factory Recommended Mount Point: -5.8 cm from center; 89.2 cm from tail
The Chipotle Banana debuted in the Moment line back around 2014 as Carston Oliver’s pro model and was marketed as a stiffer, more stable alternative to many of the soft, heavily rockered skis at the time. It was available only in a 186 cm length and was the predecessor to other, more versatile fully rockered skis like the Moment Meridian 107 and Meridian 117.
The Chipotle Banana subsequently disappeared from the lineup until a few years ago when it started to be available again as a limited production “Reserve” model. Last year Moment also started offering it in the 193 cm length for the bigger folks out there.
I’ve been spending some time on the 193 cm Chipotle Banana this season up in Alaska, and Blister Members can check out my Flash Review for my initial thoughts. In the meantime, we figured we should get a First Look up of this ski, particularly since its design might stand out even more today than it did when it was first released.
What Moment Says about the Chipotle Banana
“The special recipe for the Chipotle Banana is equal parts surfy fun and high-octane insanity, and it has enough spice to leave your mouth burning for days on end. Built by Carston Oliver for Carston Oliver, the Banana features Radius Rocker and an oversized 122mm waist that gives it freakish float and pivot-on-a-dime handling in powder. And in fact, it’s an easy ski for anyone to ski when the conditions are good. But if you’re thinking, “big soft pow noodle,” think again — the grandfather of the Meridian is as tough as a coffin nail and twice as stiff, and it was made for getting loose, fast, and loud. So, while you can take the Chipotle Banana as slow and easy as you please, you won’t find out what it can really do until you push it to the limit. And we’re willing to bet you’ll find your own before that.”
Like most fat skis, the Chipotle Banana is supposed to be surfy and maneuverable in deep snow, but unlike many fully rockered 120mm+ skis, it’s also supposed to be stiff and capable at high speeds.
Shape / Rocker Profile
The most interesting design feature of the Chipotle Banana is the use of what Moment calls “Radius Rocker,” wherein the sidecut radius is perfectly matched to the rocker profile. This is most easily demonstrated by taking one ski and placing the edge perpendicular to the base of the other ski forming a longitudinal “T”. On a ski with “Radius Rocker” you’ll notice that there is perfect contact along the entire length of the effective edge to the point of maximum width at the tail and tip. This is the same concept that 4FRNT calls “Reflect Tech” and uses on many of their skis. We’ve also seen this concept at work in the Icelantic Saba Pro and Nia Pro, among others.
The idea of “Radius Rocker” is that the ski will have consistent and predictable edge engagement regardless of edge angle. If the ski is relatively flat on the snow, there is minimal contact with either the base or edge, and, in theory, the ski should be able to pivot easily. As you lean the ski over and edge angles get higher, there is a consistent increase in edge engagement until the entire ski (from widest point of tip to widest point of tail) is in contact with the snow, in theory providing a strong and stable platform.
The shape of the Chipotle Banana is mostly notable for its lack of dramatic tip taper. The widest parts of the ski are fairly close to the tip and tail and are not dissimilar in shape to the Moment Wildcat. Particularly compared to similarly wide skis (and especially those built with freestyle intentions), the Chipotle Banana has a pretty long effective edge.
Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Chipotle Banana:
In Front of Toe Piece: 9
Behind the Heel Piece: 9
If you’re reading this and thinking that the Chipotle Banana is pretty stiff for a powder ski, you’re right!
In the past, I’ve found that stiff powder skis work best for me if the ski is full rockered, like the Chipotle Banana. I think this is simply because most skis tend to float better when bent into a rockered shape. If the ski is rockered (i.e., bent) to begin with, the stiff flex is not as much of a liability when it comes to the ski’s ability to plane up quickly instead of diving under the snow surface.
The 193 cm Chipotle Banana isn’t some completely unbendable 2×4, but it’s certainly a pretty stout ski when compared to other playful, wide options.
At 35.5 meters, the 193 cm Chipotle Banana has one of the longer turn sidecut radii we’ve seen in recent years.
In the past, I’ve often preferred a longer radius like this in pow skis because it seems to make the skis less prone to hooking, especially in drifted turns in mixed snow conditions.
The downside to a radius like this is that it can make the ski a little tougher to initiate turns and carved turns, in general, can become scary big and fast if you’re just riding the natural arc of the ski. It will be interesting to see how the Chipotle Banana feels in both mixed backcountry conditions and on smoother surfaces like inbounds groomers.
At about -5.8 cm from the true center of the ski (via a straight-tape pull), the Chipotle Banana is definitely on the more forward / progressive end of the spectrum for fat powder skis. When you consider how stiff this ski is, the intended mount point almost puts this ski in a class of its own since the vast majority of other powder skis with mounts this far forward have much softer flex patterns and are more heavily rockered.
I’ve already had a handful of days on these (see my Flash Review) and have started experimenting with moving the bindings back a little to get a little more tip float. Stay tuned for more information on that in the full review.
Our pair of the 193 cm Chipotle Banana weighs about 2338 grams per ski. This puts it on the heavier end of the spectrum for powder skis but still well within the range of a normal weight for a ski this wide. We suspect this weight will add to the suspension and stability of the Chipotle Banana in variable conditions (our initial impressions are quite positive in those regards), but wonder what the swing weight will feel like during further testing.
For reference, here are our measured weights for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try to keep things apples to apples.
1710 & 1744 Atomic Bent Chetler 120, 184 cm (18/19–20/21)
1808 & 1809 Line Pescado, 180 cm (16/17–20/21)
1873 & 1878 Line Vision 118, 183 cm (20/21)
1870 & 1895 Faction La Machine, 186 cm (20/21)
1895 & 1906 Folsom Trophy Carbon, 188 cm (18/19–20/21)
1897 & 1913 Majesty Vanguard, 188 cm (20/21)
1910 & 1941 Scott Scrapper 115, 189 cm (17/18–20/21)
2006 & 2063 Elan Ripstick 116, 193 cm (20/21)
2013 & 2099 Moment Wildcat, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
2019 & 2051 K2 Mindbender 116C, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2024 & 2031 Line Outline, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2027 & 2052 K2 Reckoner 112, 184 cm (20/21)
2034 & 2052 Blizzard Rustler 11, 188 cm (17/18–20/21)
2043 & 2046 4FRNT Inthayne, 188 cm (18/19–20/21)
2062 & 2080 Whitedot Ragnarok ASYM, 190 cm (19/20–20/21)
2081 & 2115 Faction Candide 5.0, 183 cm (18/19–20/21)
2104 & 2108 Hinterland Maul 121, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2105 & 2185 Head Kore 117, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2125 & 2134 Kye Shapes Metamorph, 185 cm (19/20–20/21)
2136 & 2174 K2 Reckoner 122, 184 cm (20/21)
2149 & 2158 DPS Alchemist Lotus 124, 191 cm (17/18–20/21)
2173 & 2204 4FRNT Renegade, 191 cm (19/20–20/21)
2174 & 2187 Moment Wildcat, 190 cm (18/19–19/20)
2181 & 2190 Parlor McFellon Pro, 185 cm (19/20–20/21)
2212 & 2215 Armada ARV 116 JJ, 185 cm (17/18–20/21)
2222 & 2278 Prior CBC, 184 cm (17/18–20/21)
2237 & 2315 Salomon QST 118, 192 cm (19/20–20/21)
2240 & 2250 Volkl Revolt 121, 184 cm (19/20–20/21)
2250 & 2280 Movement Fly Two 115, 184 cm (19/20–20/21)
2259 & 2279 Black Crows Anima, 189.2 cm (20/21)
2280 & 2286 Icelantic Nomad 115, 191 cm (19/20–20/21)
2323 & 2352 Moment Chipotle Banana, 193 cm (14/15; 19/20–20/21)
2341 & 2357 Dynastar M-Free 118, 189 cm (18/19–20/21)
2343 & 2360 J Skis Friend, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2346 & 2351 Nordica Enforcer 115 Free, 191 cm (17/18–20/21)
2416 & 2468 Liberty Genome, 187 cm (17/18–20/21)
2438 & 2480 DPS Foundation Koala 119, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2438 & 2492 Rossignol BLACKOPS Gamer, 186 cm (16/17–20/21)
2561 & 2585 Kye Shapes Numinous, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2700 & 2703 Armada ARG II, 187 cm (19/20–20/21)
Bottom Line (For Now)
The Moment Chipotle Banana is a big, strong ski with a rocker profile and mount point that make it seem like a solid choice for playful skiers who like to ski fast in soft snow. I’ll be putting more days on the ski both in the resort at Alyeska and out of the heli while guiding, so stay tuned for a full review down the line.
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