2020-2021 Moment Chipotle Banana

Ski: 2020-2021 Moment Chipotle Banana, 193 cm

Available Lengths: 186, 193 cm

Blister’s Measured Tip-to-Tail Length (straight-tape pull): 190 cm

Stated Weight per Ski: 2345 grams

Blister’s Measured Weight per Ski: 2323 & 2352 grams

Stated Dimensions: 139-122-134 mm

Blister’s Measured Dimensions: 140-122-134 mm

Stated Sidecut Radius (193 cm): 35.5 meters

Measured Tip & Tail Splay (ski decambered): 71 mm / 71 mm

Measured Traditional Camber Underfoot: 0 mm

Core: Aspen/Ash + Carbon Stringers + Fiberglass Laminate

Base: Sintered 4001 Durasurf

Factory Recommended Mount Point: -5.8 cm from center; 89.2 cm from tail

Paul Forward reviews the Moment Chipotle Banana for Blister
Moment Chipotle Banana — Top Sheet
Review Navigation:  Specs //  First Look //  Bottom Line //  Rocker Pics

Intro

The Chipotle Banana debuted in the Moment line back around 2014 as Carston Oliver’s pro model and was marketed as a stiffer, more stable alternative to many of the soft, heavily rockered skis at the time. It was available only in a 186 cm length and was the predecessor to other, more versatile fully rockered skis like the Moment Meridian 107 and Meridian 117.

The Chipotle Banana subsequently disappeared from the lineup until a few years ago when it started to be available again as a limited production “Reserve” model. Last year Moment also started offering it in the 193 cm length for the bigger folks out there.

I’ve been spending some time on the 193 cm Chipotle Banana this season up in Alaska, and Blister Members can check out my Flash Review for my initial thoughts. In the meantime, we figured we should get a First Look up of this ski, particularly since its design might stand out even more today than it did when it was first released.

What Moment Says about the Chipotle Banana

“The special recipe for the Chipotle Banana is equal parts surfy fun and high-octane insanity, and it has enough spice to leave your mouth burning for days on end. Built by Carston Oliver for Carston Oliver, the Banana features Radius Rocker and an oversized 122mm waist that gives it freakish float and pivot-on-a-dime handling in powder. And in fact, it’s an easy ski for anyone to ski when the conditions are good. But if you’re thinking, “big soft pow noodle,” think again — the grandfather of the Meridian is as tough as a coffin nail and twice as stiff, and it was made for getting loose, fast, and loud. So, while you can take the Chipotle Banana as slow and easy as you please, you won’t find out what it can really do until you push it to the limit. And we’re willing to bet you’ll find your own before that.”

Like most fat skis, the Chipotle Banana is supposed to be surfy and maneuverable in deep snow, but unlike many fully rockered 120mm+ skis, it’s also supposed to be stiff and capable at high speeds.

Shape / Rocker Profile

The most interesting design feature of the Chipotle Banana is the use of what Moment calls “Radius Rocker,” wherein the sidecut radius is perfectly matched to the rocker profile. This is most easily demonstrated by taking one ski and placing the edge perpendicular to the base of the other ski forming a longitudinal “T”. On a ski with “Radius Rocker” you’ll notice that there is perfect contact along the entire length of the effective edge to the point of maximum width at the tail and tip. This is the same concept that 4FRNT calls “Reflect Tech” and uses on many of their skis. We’ve also seen this concept at work in the Icelantic Saba Pro and Nia Pro, among others.

The idea of “Radius Rocker” is that the ski will have consistent and predictable edge engagement regardless of edge angle. If the ski is relatively flat on the snow, there is minimal contact with either the base or edge, and, in theory, the ski should be able to pivot easily. As you lean the ski over and edge angles get higher, there is a consistent increase in edge engagement until the entire ski (from widest point of tip to widest point of tail) is in contact with the snow, in theory providing a strong and stable platform.

Just looking at the Chipotle Banana’s rocker profile, its rocker lines are notably more subtle / less dramatic than something like the Armada ARG II, and aren’t super far off from the 4FRNT Inthayne.

The shape of the Chipotle Banana is mostly notable for its lack of dramatic tip taper. The widest parts of the ski are fairly close to the tip and tail and are not dissimilar in shape to the Moment Wildcat. Particularly compared to similarly wide skis (and especially those built with freestyle intentions), the Chipotle Banana has a pretty long effective edge.

Flex Pattern

Here’s how we’d characterize the flex pattern of the Chipotle Banana:

Tips: 7
Shovels: 8
In Front of Toe Piece: 9
Underfoot: 10
Behind the Heel Piece: 9
Tails: 8

If you’re reading this and thinking that the Chipotle Banana is pretty stiff for a powder ski, you’re right!

In the past, I’ve found that stiff powder skis work best for me if the ski is full rockered, like the Chipotle Banana. I think this is simply because most skis tend to float better when bent into a rockered shape. If the ski is rockered (i.e., bent) to begin with, the stiff flex is not as much of a liability when it comes to the ski’s ability to plane up quickly instead of diving under the snow surface.

The 193 cm Chipotle Banana isn’t some completely unbendable 2×4, but it’s certainly a pretty stout ski when compared to other playful, wide options.

Sidecut Radius

At 35.5 meters, the 193 cm Chipotle Banana has one of the longer turn sidecut radii we’ve seen in recent years.

In the past, I’ve often preferred a longer radius like this in pow skis because it seems to make the skis less prone to hooking, especially in drifted turns in mixed snow conditions.

The downside to a radius like this is that it can make the ski a little tougher to initiate turns and carved turns, in general, can become scary big and fast if you’re just riding the natural arc of the ski. It will be interesting to see how the Chipotle Banana feels in both mixed backcountry conditions and on smoother surfaces like inbounds groomers.

Mount Point

At about -5.8 cm from the true center of the ski (via a straight-tape pull), the Chipotle Banana is definitely on the more forward / progressive end of the spectrum for fat powder skis. When you consider how stiff this ski is, the intended mount point almost puts this ski in a class of its own since the vast majority of other powder skis with mounts this far forward have much softer flex patterns and are more heavily rockered.

I’ve already had a handful of days on these (see my Flash Review) and have started experimenting with moving the bindings back a little to get a little more tip float. Stay tuned for more information on that in the full review.

Weight

Our pair of the 193 cm Chipotle Banana weighs about 2338 grams per ski. This puts it on the heavier end of the spectrum for powder skis but still well within the range of a normal weight for a ski this wide. We suspect this weight will add to the suspension and stability of the Chipotle Banana in variable conditions (our initial impressions are quite positive in those regards), but wonder what the swing weight will feel like during further testing.

For reference, here are our measured weights for some notable skis. Keep in mind the length differences to try to keep things apples to apples.

1710 & 1744 Atomic Bent Chetler 120, 184 cm (18/19–20/21)
1808 & 1809 Line Pescado, 180 cm (16/17–20/21)
1873 & 1878 Line Vision 118, 183 cm (20/21)
1870 & 1895 Faction La Machine, 186 cm (20/21)
1895 & 1906 Folsom Trophy Carbon, 188 cm (18/19–20/21)
1897 & 1913 Majesty Vanguard, 188 cm (20/21)
1910 & 1941 Scott Scrapper 115, 189 cm (17/18–20/21)
2006 & 2063 Elan Ripstick 116, 193 cm (20/21)
2013 & 2099 Moment Wildcat, 184 cm (18/19–19/20)
2019 & 2051 K2 Mindbender 116C, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2024 & 2031 Line Outline, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2027 & 2052 K2 Reckoner 112, 184 cm (20/21)
2034 & 2052 Blizzard Rustler 11, 188 cm (17/18–20/21)
2043 & 2046 4FRNT Inthayne, 188 cm (18/19–20/21)
2062 & 2080 Whitedot Ragnarok ASYM, 190 cm (19/20–20/21)
2081 & 2115 Faction Candide 5.0, 183 cm (18/19–20/21)
2104 & 2108 Hinterland Maul 121, 186 cm (19/20–20/21)
2105 & 2185 Head Kore 117, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2125 & 2134 Kye Shapes Metamorph, 185 cm (19/20–20/21)
2136 & 2174 K2 Reckoner 122, 184 cm (20/21)
2149 & 2158 DPS Alchemist Lotus 124, 191 cm (17/18–20/21)
2173 & 2204 4FRNT Renegade, 191 cm (19/20–20/21)
2174 & 2187 Moment Wildcat, 190 cm (18/19–19/20)
2181 & 2190 Parlor McFellon Pro, 185 cm (19/20–20/21)
2212 & 2215 Armada ARV 116 JJ, 185 cm (17/18–20/21)
2222 & 2278 Prior CBC, 184 cm (17/18–20/21)
2237 & 2315 Salomon QST 118, 192 cm (19/20–20/21)
2240 & 2250 Volkl Revolt 121, 184 cm (19/20–20/21)
2250 & 2280 Movement Fly Two 115, 184 cm (19/20–20/21)
2259 & 2279 Black Crows Anima, 189.2 cm (20/21)
2280 & 2286 Icelantic Nomad 115, 191 cm (19/20–20/21)
2323 & 2352 Moment Chipotle Banana, 193 cm (14/15; 19/20–20/21)
2341 & 2357 Dynastar M-Free 118, 189 cm (18/19–20/21)
2343 & 2360 J Skis Friend, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2346 & 2351 Nordica Enforcer 115 Free, 191 cm (17/18–20/21)
2416 & 2468 Liberty Genome, 187 cm (17/18–20/21)
2438 & 2480 DPS Foundation Koala 119, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2438 & 2492 Rossignol BLACKOPS Gamer, 186 cm (16/17–20/21)
2561 & 2585 Kye Shapes Numinous, 189 cm (19/20–20/21)
2700 & 2703 Armada ARG II, 187 cm (19/20–20/21)

Bottom Line (For Now)

The Moment Chipotle Banana is a big, strong ski with a rocker profile and mount point that make it seem like a solid choice for playful skiers who like to ski fast in soft snow. I’ll be putting more days on the ski both in the resort at Alyeska and out of the heli while guiding, so stay tuned for a full review down the line.

Flash Review

Blister Members can read our Flash Review of the Chipotle Banana for our initial on-snow impressions. Become a Blister member now to check out this and all of our Flash Reviews, plus get exclusive deals and discounts on skis, and personalized gear recommendations from us.

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23 comments on “2020-2021 Moment Chipotle Banana”

  1. Any reason you chose the 193 and not the 186 to review? From talking to the Moment guys, the 186 is sufficient for 95% of skiers out there.

  2. Thanks for the review! This looks an awful lot like the Volkl One or Volkl Two from a few years back. Wondering if you ever skied them and can compare?
    Cheers!

    • Hey Nick,
      Actually ran into a guy with a pair of these the other day, and they are much stiffer, and significantly less rockered than the volkl one’s. Much less flappy on the resort!

    • Paul has spent some time on the Two, and I believe the One, so he should be able to discuss those skis when he posts his Deep Dive comparisons.

  3. This ski is amazing. I’ve had mine for a couple weeks now and every time I take them out I am blown away. How can a ski that can charge hard also be so accessible. I’m 6’ 185lbs and the 193 is fantastic. It pivots and slashes on demand in any kind of soft snow. I think they may be an easier ski than my 188 Corvus, and way easier than the 192 Zealot. I was a little apprehensive about the 193 but after skiing them, I think the 186 with recommended mount would feel short for me.

  4. I think I’d really really love these… but I’ve already got Revolt 121s, how many heavy 120mm-ish freeride skis is too many for one man to own?

    • Also, unrelated but looking at the weight chart, is the Genome really that heavy? They felt lighter than the Revolts to me (went from 187 Genome to 191 Revolt)

    • Maybe I can help you here. A wise friend of mine once said that the right number of skis (or mountain bikes) to own can be determined using the mathematical formula n+1 where n = the number of skis you have today. So applying that logic you should definitely buy a pair. Trust the maths!

  5. The Moment guys told me to go for the 193! I bet on the perfect day when your legs are rested and the conditions are amazing, you could seriously dominate on these. I ended up just getting a pair of 190 Wildcats though, a bit more versatility.
    Looking forward to the full review.

  6. I’m definitely interested to see what you all think of this goofy experiment of a ski… I have a lot of respect for Blister’s approach to gear, and to thorough, in-depth reviews. It’s funny how much more feedback/reviews/interest came back from its little brother, the Meridian, (but also understandable, as to many folks that might seem like a much more approachable ski.) It’ll be cool to finally see some in-depth thoughts/feedback/review from outside my little bubble on the original ski that sparked the whole Meridian series.

    • Woah! Thanks for chiming in!

      I’ve been on it most of the season up in Wyoming, and I really like it for up to 12in of pow, it’s so much fun to goof off in, just slash and bash your way down the mountain. See a roller you want to drift over, so easy to fly sideways over it. The tip does dive on me in anything deeper, unless I stand up very straight or lean back. Might be a difference in skiing style? When ever I grab them, I always know it’s going to be a fun day. We are solidly in spring skiing now, and I’m going to grab them for hot pow.

      • Nice! Glad to hear you’ve been having fun on them. The whole idea was to have a ski that has all the playful attributes of a fully rockered ski, so you can confidently throw them sideways at any time, land/ski in either direction, and make more or less whatever turn shape you please, but still have a solid but predictable grip when rolled onto edge, and a beefy enough platform to ski them dumb-dumb fast and hit large airs should you feel the urge to. Glad to hear that at least the playful fun factor side is working well for you.
        Thanks for the note on the tip dive! That’s interesting, it could be a difference in ski style, for sure, but it could also just be a speed issue… for the most part I haven’t had that problem, except on a couple occasions at low speeds, when stuck in lower angle terrain with slightly upside-down snow. These skis definitely seem to handle better at speed, and compared to other boards I’ll usually run them straight for an extra couple beats and let them plane out before I really start making turns… these just kind of need a little more room to run before they come alive than some other boards.
        I think in large part it’s just a symptom of the compromise that happens when you give a ski so little taper from tip to tail (difference between width of the tip and the tail): you keep that “freestyle” element of being able to confidently land/ski backwards, but you lose that extra tip buoyancy that skis with more taper from tip to tail tend to have. It’s always much more noticeable at lower speeds, before the ski starts to plane out on top of the snow. (These only have 5mm of taper from tip to tail… a lot of other skis will can have as much as 10mm and still live somewhat in the more “freestyle category” and more directional skis can have 15mm or more. I’ve toyed with seeing if the tip could be a couple mm wider, but haven’t had issues often enough to ask for that change to the ski… getting that feedback is good food for thought if there’s ever an updated version though, I guess)

        • 100% agree with your assessment Carston, thanks for chiming in. I begin to initiate turns just a little bit further down the slope than I would on other skis and they just come to life and do what I want them to do. No issues with float thus far and I’ve skied these in some cement.

          Personally I was hesitant about the graphics because they garner a lot of attention, but you get used to it. The color profile looks great on snow.

          I humbly ask that you don’t change a thing! Freaking love these things. I’m 5’7’’ ~173lbs and I have the 186s mounted -.75cm from recommended.

        • After further extensive testing, speed definitely cures the tip dive issue! I will grab the K2 Pon2oon sometimes on pow days (first world problems), and can wiggle around in mellow flatter pow at slower speeds with that massive tip, seriously it’s HUGE.

          I loved the Shiro for years, the stiff predictable nature of a fully rockered free style pow ski is a dream. When you mentioned the tip taper issue and speed it all clicked. An extra heartbeat or two of straight lining before starting to turn and they are super happy.

          I don’t think 5 (or 10mm) of taper would be a positive change. It’s your ski, do what you want with it of course. With the matching side cut and rocker profile. I think they would be come too turny, and the tips/tails would be in the way, maybe not in the way but that easy toss on edge and drift the Bananas do would change. Maybe if you moved the widest part of the ski closer to the tip and tail? But then you’d end up with an Icelandic Nomad 115/125 style pow ski with a heavy tip, and lose some of the freestyle playfulness.

          I like them how they are. I don’t have a freestyle background, hence why mine are mounted at -1. Depending on what Paul Forward says when he updates the review, I might try -2 or -3 next season because I do have a more forward stance then most freestyle skiers, but I also might not because they ski fine how they are. I’ll say this, I’ve tried way too many pow skis over the past few years, and the Chipotle Bananas are surviving to another season. Japan, AK, Powder Highway, if I’m making a trip to chase pow, I’d be fine just taking the Bananas.

          • Curious what other skis have been your favorites for inbounds pow days? Sounds like you’ve been on a bunch!

            Formerly owned the Bodacious, Bibby, and Billy Goat. All were great skis, but I’m still searching for “the one”

            I actually lovvvved the 190 Bibby/Wildcat, but I eventually got rid of it because I found myself over-pressuring the tips too often and I assumed there wasn’t much room to move the bindings behind recommended. I figured I’d change the ski rather than fight to change my style.

            I’ve been wondering to myself if the 193 Chipotle Banana (mounted at -1) is more or less sensitive to over-pressuring the tips than my 190 Bibby (mounted on the line) was.

  7. Any opinions out there on the Chipotle Banana Tour? Not that I have any desire to pay $1300 for a pair of skis, but I love slarvy 120+ mm skis. I don’t think I’m powerful enough for the standard version (5’10″/165 and tend to ride pretty light on my feet), but if the tour is a little softer I’d be curious to give it a try.

    • Got a response back from Moment customer support saying the flex of the tour is more or less the same, so you’re pretty much getting reduced dampness in exchange for reduced weight.

  8. Jeff. I’m 5’10” 145lb and ski the 186. I would highly recommend. They’re not that difficult to drive ime.

    For context I daily the old maroon qst, and also ride j skis masterblasters and a zero g 85. All around 180cm.

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